Peter>And what about Good Ol' Shang-Hsa May-his-name-be-cursed?
>Obviously proving oneself to be a dragon in the end (or whatever we
chose >to call it) is not the same thing as being a wise, benign and
capable ruler.
Sorry if I was unclear -- I was not counting Shang-hsa-may-his-name-be-cursed, because I do not consider him to have been a ruler of Kralorela (as I know some people do), and so do not believe that he ever became a dragon. I still think he was one of the FDR. But I should have made this clear -- sorry.
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Rotters.
>Peter Metcalfe thoroughly corrects me of my misinterpretation of
>Monsters in the West. I admit I am no expert on Western matters, that's
>just the impression that I got of malkioni, that they are a bunch of,
>for want of a better analogy, nazis.
Well, to disagree with Peter, the term krjalki has been used in the West for centuries to apply to _all_ the elder races, including elves and dwarfs. Not all Westerners hold that elves are chaos monsters, but many of them do.
>The sedalpists sure seem that way, but how widespread are they, or their
>attitude in this respect?
The Sedalpists have nifty spells like With Elf Bow, Smite [Non-Human Species], and Poison Troll, so they definitely seem on the anti-elder races/nazi side to me.
Nick Brooke:
>We call him a "Breath Shaman of Umath". Probably he'd be called
>a Kolating by someone with fancy Jrusteli textbooks (or, indeed,
>by anyone whose game started *after* "King of Sartar" had been
>published -- but we used the original name for Orlanthi shamans,
>and it seems to fit)
This is beside Nick's point, but I prefer to think that Breath Shamans of Umath and Kolatings are slightly different shamanic traditions. Not sure what the difference is, but I see no need to make them the same. Perhaps Breath Shamans deal more specifically with Air Spirits, whereas kolatings deal with a lot of Orlanthi-friendly spirits.
This is similar to the way I think that among trolls there are Kyger Litor shamans, and there are Dehori shamans, and they are not the same.
Peter Metcalfe
>>The fact that 99% of people believe in a divine being does not make it
so,
>>a few centuries ago the vast majority of people believed the world was
>>flat, were they correct?
>To be pedantic, they didn't. It was a 19th Century myth.
I'm sorry, I don't understand this. It almost sounds liek you are saying that it is a 19th Century myth, that most of the people of the world believed the world was flat a few centuries ago.
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