> Please can someone(s) tell me exactly who can perform resurrections
> from the discussions so far my house rules is forming something like
> L Mhy Non cult enemies and non chaos
> I Ontor Lunars and allied cults
I'd like to hear your logic for the Knowing God, the god of lawspeakers, resurrecting folks.
> Teelo Norri Non cult enemies
The Lunar goddess of youth grants Resurrection? Deezola would be the Seven Mothers source, surely.
> Xiola Umbar Trolls
No Resurrection listed in Troll Gods...
> Daka Fal Nomads, Waha and Strombull cultists
More likely it's kin only.
> I'm also toying with the idea that unless you are an Initiate at
> least there is no chance of resurrection
An initiate of whom? Chalana Arroy will certainly resurrect those who aren't Healers.
> Also I'm heretically allowing Humaktis to be resurrected by DI only,
> ie at point of death, basically big H says "Go back your work is not
> yet done" or some such, cos the body is still warm and the blood
> still coursing so they aren't really dead
Nothing wrong with that, it's not truly a resurrection (since the RQ3 game rules are probably broken with their death within seconds).
Robert McArthur wrote
> I think that resurrection is pretty much as
> hard (easy?) as RQ has it. ...
> What you have also not considered is acolytes (if they are in your
> Glorantha).
Wait a minute, if you're going to argue from the rules, there are no acolytes of Chalana Arroy. (River of Cradles p.170 -- ignore the bogus reference to them on p.169 because unlike other cults in the volume, the status is never described).
I think there aren't acolytes in part because just being an initiate is about as hard on people as acolyte is in most cults -- and gives about as much prestige.
Richard Develyn
> AM: If the Lunars go out and eventually kill all the Orlanthi, so that
> no one worships Orlanth, and then they HeroQuest against Orlanth, will
> he cease to exist?
>
> GS: Yes. He will not cease to have existed, but he could cease to exist.
> I deduce from this that a god only exists within his worship-space. This
> seems to be in keeping with Gloranthan writings - if a god isn't
> worshipped somewhere he simply isn't there.
I'd put more emphasis on the second part of the question: "and then they heroquest against Orlanth" -- I think this is what would cause him to cease to exist.
> a God cannot affect the way that he is worshipped
True. But a god can indirectly affect it -- if Chalana Arroy never ever answers the sacrifice of a living being, and Shargash always answers a human sacrifice, people will adapt their way of worship accordingly.
> Imagine an island full of atheists* and no outside contact. Do they
> experience death, disease, wind (you know what I mean), do they even see
> the sun in the sky? I reckon not.
I can't agree that the theistic viewpoint is the only valid one. I think one of Glorantha's coolest features is that you can't dismiss the materialist viewpoint out of hand -- it works well enough to explain Glorantha that many Gloranthans have adopted it over the years. I don't think it's necessarily as fun to *play* as theists, but it cannot be proven wrong.
> > Not gods (you don't see Cacodemon himself, after all).
>
> You do! See Dorastor pp 73-74.
You're right, I was thinking of the other writeups. Still, he's pretty restricted in where he shows up -- he can't just show up in Dara Happa if he feels like it.
David Dunham <mailto:dunham_at_pensee.com> Glorantha/RQ page: <http://www.pensee.com/dunham/glorantha.html> Imagination is more important than knowledge. -- Albert Einstein
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