>>IMO the Malkioni do not adopt the vows to refrain from >>the world as the mystics do, they do it to clear the mind and soul of >>some of the corrupting influences of this gross world of matter.
Simon Hibbs:
> Er, same thing surely?
To me, too, since I wasn't referring to any philosophical definition of mysticism, but to the "magic rule" explanation I was given at Convulsion: "Mystics gain magical powers by refusing opportunities, by resisting temptations" for whatever gain or effort their line of mysticism aims at.
(I loved Greg's explanation of Sheng Seleris' approach, praraphrased:
"want to be rich?" "No." "want to be chieftain?" "No." "want to be khan-of-khans?" "No." "want to be king of the world?" "Yes, that's the one I've been waitingfor.")
Peter:
>>By accessing the Higher levels of existance more readily, their
>>sorcery is correspondingly more potent.
Greg also read (or had Nick read) the Malkioni devolution scheme. By "Higher levels of existance" do you mean lifted to the level of Zzabur and Horal not as persons, but as principal forces? (Or at least a bit that way?)
Peter later clarified that the Higher levels are material in the materialist's worldview. To be expected - apparently the Malkioni know one state of transcendence, and that's Solace. People who attain it are dead, or Saints, or both. Wizards aren't necessarily saintly.
Simon:
> How about this :
> The Malkioni believe that their magic works because it's laws are
> resonant with the underlying Universal Laws, which rule the material
> world. (Their definition of material).
Sounds logical. ;-)
> The Universal Laws are not purely physical in the modern sense. They
> are also moral in nature.
Or perhaps, the Malkioni morals are regarded as tangible matter?
Nice parallels to Kabbalistic and Hermetic philosophies.
> This strikes me as being so similar to Malkioni philosophy that it
> can't be a coincidence.
IMO this similarity was sort of a "design criterium".
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