Re: Nature and Frontiers of Glorantha

From: Julian Lord <julian.lord_at_wanadoo.fr>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 04:59:29 +0200


Simon Hibbs :

> >*I* say that it doesn't, and that impossible events can occur in
> >Glorantha, although they (probably) cease to be so after
> >this occurrence.
>
> I've already said I don't agree with this. There are some things even
> the gods cannot do, such as bring anything back from True Death.

And I said that this is the Compromise in action, etc.. etc..

Come to think of it, I seem to remember that if you do the long LBQ, you can start a further HQ from Hell and retrieve anything or anyone you want, no matter how it was destroyed.
It's the only known cure for entropy, IIRC. Even if this is true, a memory of the thing would have to still exist, so some entropied stuff would be only theoretically retrievable, but not in practice.

otherwise, fair enough ...

> >I mean that during the Greater Darkness, Bad Magic was Absolutely
> >Horrible; Good Magic was Mediocre.
> >And I extend this concept to encompass the whole Gloranthan cosmos
> >during the Greater Darkness.
>
> Except trolls, who look back on it as a time of expansion, conquest
> and prosperity when all the world was their larder.

I've always been slightly suspicious of this story.

Isn't there some confusion of Lesser and Greater Darknesses as far as trolls are concerned? The Wonderhome myths are set *before* the Lesser Darkness, in any case. The Lesser Darkness was a horrible time for the Uz, who had to choose between the Burnplace below, and the Brightplace above (which was still lit by many stars, and other heavenly bodies, and Yelmalio's light, and, I suspect, a sun).

Admittedly, the trolls _were_ relatively better off as a race during these periods which, from a hooman POV, correspond to a period of troll dominance.

Also, Glorantha IS the larder of Uz, for all Eternity ...

> >As an example of this, there would be certain kinds of demon.
> >No proof of this, though.
>
> IMHO one person's demon is another's supernatural ally.

Certainly, but :

The subject of demons in Glorantha is a particularly confusing one, because we have to deal with the christian definition of the word, the greek word daimon (think Socrates), a RQ definition, and the fact that this definition has been "clarified" by Greg (IIRC) so as to encompass any weird kind of spirit.

And there is, as you remind me, a distinction between "demons" and "chaos demons".


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