> > SLH I can't say much about, but Yothbedta's Stream and other
Well, yes, Yothbedta is Vithelan, but I got the reference to her stream from a Kralorelan myth in which the actors are mystic and Kralorelan sages (the Reign Of Shang-Hsa, May His Name Be Cursed). Of course, the whole episode could be taken as another good reason why good mystics shouldn't give in to the temptations of the otherworld, but I never said that the mystics liked it.
Anyway, even if the otherworld is kind of theist - I guess my proposition could be restated, in a manner that is a little less Four-Worldish to satisfy Alex, that the mystic dominated cultures (such as Vithela and Kralorela) still acknowledge an otherworld.
While it might satisfy the rigid Four-World proponents to disclaim that such otherworlds are not essentially mystic, I don't really see the distinction myself. The followers of, say, Mashunasen might tell you that the otherworld is essentially an illusion and you should avoid messing with it - but they can still tell a bit about what its like, who lives there, and there will even be some essentially mystic aspects of it (like mystically illuminated gods and such). The distinction between, say, a Kralorelan otherworld with a large mystic influence, and a mystic otherworld, is hairsplitting that I don't care much about. Suffice to say I can't think of a culture that doesn't acknowledge an otherworld, and in such cases the mystics will have an influence on it.
Cheers David ------------------------------
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