Re: The Glorantha Digest V8 #285

From: Greg Stafford <greg_at_glorantha.com>
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 08:26:23 -0800


John Hughes again enlightens us. Good work John and Jeff. Nice piece. I have only two little caveats:

>Most married men are initiates of Orlanth The Farmer, but in their youth
>they follow Orlanth Adventurous.

Maybe. I think that most Orlanthi, like most people, just graduate to adulthoodand go right into the working class: farmers. The Adventurous option is there for those who want to take it, but I think most people are content to skip it. Content? Relieved.

>A woman (even a married one) may dally with such a man,
Married dalliance with Niskis is the subject of love stories. It is not permission for promiscuity. Under normal circumstances dalliance would be forbidden, but in some cases the "power of Niskis" is too great between a couple. but if you got busted with my wife, then your (and her) ONLY out would be pass ritual tests to PROVE you both were possessed by Niskis and his over.

And how comes no one has mentioned Yinkin? Yinkin the other great sensualist, a seducer, a sexual being

Julian Lord asks:
>What I meant was, (in the context of your responses, which have certainly
>clarified matters), If a Hero (such as Hantrafal) creates some new (therefore
>local) method of dealing with the Otherworld, how does this affect the
>entities that are worshipped in the old way ? I'd guess that the most
>important of these entities would continue to be worshipped in the old way
>(or would slowly disappear from the culture), but is there a general class
>of hybrid otherworld entities which can shift from one state of being to
>another, depending on the nature of the worship that they receive, which
>would be culturally determined by Heroic Action ?
No.

>I'm not really thinking of the Defiant entities, but of a theoretic class of
>Hybrid ones : the difference being that the Defiant entities exist in several
>otherworlds, whereas the Hybrid ones would exist *between* two or more
>otherworlds. Does that sound right ?

I understand what you are asking. The answer is clear. No such class of beings exists.

>> >Basically, is the strict division between the otherworlds a transitional
>> > state or an unchangeable cosmic truth ?
>
>> It is an unchangable cosmic truth.
>> Except that you characters get to change it in the Hero Wars.
>
>Well, OK : but presumably it has been changed before the HW ?
The Gbaji Wars and the end(s) of the Imperial Age.

>A shifting state, but a static one : fine.
>
>> >Can only Heroes Change the World, or can Cultures do so as well ?
>> In a heroicly oriented world, I'd bank on the former.
>
>OK, but that means that the Cultures themselves are the result of Heroic
>action.
>
>This raises a lot of questions which would be heavy going even for the GD.
>I'm not sure that the other Digesters would find such topics as relevant
>or palatable ones for this forum.

I know I find such subjects unpalatable here. Ask me these things at seminars in person.

End of The Glorantha Digest V8 #286


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