Caladra

From: Stewart Stansfield <stewart_at_cynoscephalae.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:52:39 +0100


[I've got to apologise to Peter, as he sent me a mail on this a bit back which I've managed to lose and partially forget. Sorry, Peter!]

I think a problem is that there are a great many answers. Working on the idea that there are a multiplicity of truths, here is what I have so far garnered. Please feel encouraged to ridicule or critique this as you wish, to get to the bottom of the situation. I'm trying to define the varying mythologies of this volcano god(dess) as worshipped through time and space.

Caladraland is central to my forthcoming campaign, so I'm trying to get as much info on this as possible. You Orlanthi lot get hundreds of pages of Thunder Brothers and Storm Tribe... I get a few paragraphs! So bear with me... :o)

CALADRALAND (pre-God Learner):
Which was the original god from an *indigenous* perspective... Caladra or Caladril? I forget. I'm not ignoring Peter's answer as much as it might seem here, as around the time of the Broken Council and Palangio's invasion, was there an initial attempt to link this indigenous God with Lodril, before the God Learners came about? Was this link of the 'they are the same' or 'father and son' form? I maybe misremembering something here.

Was this indigenous god chained by Argan Argar from the Caladralanders' viewpoint, or is this myth only held by the Trolls? Or was it some form of Lodril chained by Argan Argar, and it is only through Lodril's later identification with the volcano god that we think this indigenous volcano god was subdued?

The horror, the horror...

CALADRALAND (pseudo-God Learner):
This original god is taken by the God Learners, and monkeyed around with. The older 'male' [though Greg speaks against this] god is put into the background and identified as Lodril. Perhaps Moray and Telerio specifically spread the 'Lodril is chained' idea to push people into worshipping their new construct.

The Volcano Twins are Caladra [female], who takes elements from the older indigenous god, and is twinned with Aurelion [male*], a Jrusteli earth god. Caladra's sex is changed to fit into the newer ethos, as Peter says. As people have also pointed out, this new situation is useful as by promoting the Volcano Twins you attempt to break any mystic ties over the land the trolls might have by holding [insert here] volcano god prisoner.

*Peter in Glorantha: Intro, it says that Aurelion is female... is this only like the 'Calandra' thing?

CALADRALAND (post-God Learner):
Following the Closing, even Moray and Telerio's efforts started to fail. The older worship of an older Caladra [male] as volcano god became increasingly more prevalent, eventually dominating the region. But, ironically, Lodril is still accepted as his father. I know the idea that Belintar resurrected the more peaceful Volcano Twins cult was dropped from Glorantha: Intro for brevity, but we can assume it had a little renaissance. Whatever the situation, after the Pharaoh's disappearance, the cult further faded.

Presently, Caladra [male] is the dominant god of the Vent region, and worship is also occasionally given to Lodril, his father. The Volcano Twins (Caladra [female] and Aurelion [male]) are still worshipped around the Low Temple and in Porthomeka.

HEORTLINGS (in general):
In Orlanthi mythology, references in Thunder Rebels and Storm Tribe seem to imply that they effectively view Lodril and any Caladran volcano God as the same. Elements of Lodrili and Caladran myth seem to combine in the Vestkarthen stories. That's understandable, as the finer points of volcano-worship are probably not high on the agrarian and pastoral Heortling agenda, and you can't see them over-detailing this myth.

For the Orlanthi Heortlings, Vestkarthen was ko'd by Urox, Maran and then the trolls.

What's with everyone picking on this poor guy...

ESROLIA:
Esrolia maybe more problematic, and thoughts might vary dependent on Faction. Closer to Caladraland and with a prominent Warm Earth Faction and the acknowledgement of Erdana, I see a mode of recognition that lies closer to current Caladran practices, God Learner or otherwise. Though the idea that Maran dominates Caladra would be appropriate. If Caladra was male... yet post-Esrolian Porthomeka follows the Volcano Twins...

TROLLS (of the Shadow Plateau):
Do you think the Trolls would see the situation as followed in the majority of Caladraland, but view Lodril as imprisoned, and his son Caladra acting in his stead? Or do they just see one volcano god, who they've imprisoned and whose writhing causes the eruptions to the south?

IS LODRIL/CALADRIL/[INDIGENOUS VOLCANO GOD] FREE (dependent on mythocentricity...)?
Sources vary... but was Lodril actually released from his chains? Or is he still chained... or have the Lowfires just been released? Or is he being gradually released? Feel free to give a different answer for different regions/races/cultures!

All the best,

Stu.

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