Re: Re: Gloranthan 'angels'

From: Manuel MOLINIER <manuel.molinier_at_free.fr>
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:10:42 +0100

In fact if I remembeer well the addition of Hell/Satan is a very lately addition to the christian beliefs.
Added to include a common "enemy" to put the blame of bad behavior on and associate the "bad" people.
In original Christian religion (Bible) there is no room for a fallen Angel and Satan doesn't exist ... Neither do demons.

Manuel
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From: "Andrew Barton" <AndrewBarton_at_compuserve.com> To: <glorantha_at_rpglist.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:32 AM Subject: Re: Gloranthan 'angels'

Andrew Barton:
> Also, at least some mainstream
> Christians would say that fallen angels (and other kinds of demons if
there
> are such) are all created by God, because Hell cannot make anything new.
> For one take on this see the 'Screwtape Letters' by CS Lewis.

Andrew Solovay:
> Yup--it's very well-established Christian doctrine that the devil
> "doesn't make, he only mocks", as Frodo put it. But again, if someone
> uses the term "angel" without qualification, he is almost never
> referring to the *fallen* angels, which are invariably thus or similarly
> (e.g. as "rebel angels") or just called 'demons' or 'devils'.

Yes, but my point was that in mainstream Christian usage 'demons' never -originate- in the underworld.

Andrew

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