From: RuneQuest-Request@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (RQ Digest Maintainer) To: RuneQuest@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (Daily automated RQ-Digest) Subject: RuneQuest Daily, Thu, 09 Sep 1993, part 1 Reply-To: RuneQuest@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (RuneQuest Daily) Sender: RuneQuest-Request@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM Precedence: junk The RuneQuest Daily and RuneQuest Digest deal with the subjects of Avalon Hill's RPG and Greg Stafford's world of Glorantha. Send submissions and followup to "RuneQuest@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM", they will automatically be included in a next issue. Try to change the Subject: line from the default Re: RuneQuest Daily... on replying. Selected articles may also appear in a regular Digest. If you want to submit articles to the Digest only, contact the editor at RuneQuest-Digest-Editor@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM. Send enquiries and Subscription Requests to the editor: RuneQuest-Request@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (Henk Langeveld) --------------------- From: Tom.Zunder@mettav.royle.org (Tom Zunder) Subject: Lots and Lots of Stuff Message-ID:Date: 8 Sep 93 20:19:50 GMT X-RQ-ID: 1595 Moons I like the idea that Yelm was White in Gods Time, and was sundered into three by Death. The Sun is the Yellow part, also Yelmalio, Annila is the Blue part and the Red Moon is the last. Where the Red Moon was hiding we don't know but I would guess it was blasted into a chaos hell from where the Red Goddess retrieved it. Lunar mythology implies that the Red Goddess existed since Time but the Seven Mothers refound her, maybe the Red Moon actually is the Red Goddess, the female aspect is an accident. Thus the return of the White is the rebirth of the full Yelm Emperor. Lunar Power Whilst I agree that solar society underpins Lunar society, I would not presume that the awesome power of the Red Emperor and the Red Moon can't keep a very tight rein on the solars! Arkat Arkat is Gbaji is Nysalor is Osentalka is Arkat is Gbaji is Nysalor is .... {I'm told that if I say this often enough I will be Illuminated} Scenarios I think AH should write some more 48 page scenario packs for good roleplaying, hack and slay and pick up and plug and play.. Orlanth Rex! tzunder@mettav.royle.org --------------------- From: 76360.1173@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Domino 76360,1173) Subject: Praxian Nomads Message-ID: <930909031909_76360.1173_FHA42-1@CompuServe.COM> Date: 9 Sep 93 03:19:10 GMT X-RQ-ID: 1596 Charles Domino, pitching in his 1/50 of $1 U.S.: Greg Fried writes: _______________________________________ Are specific tribes ONLY to be found in certain areas, or do they only predominate in those areas, or are the various tribes interspersed throughout the region? In the old Borderlands pack, the map of "The Domain" locates Morokanth near Bilos Gap, Agimori near Weis Cut, and generic "Beast Riders" east of Zola Fel and the river valley. If Bison Riders, Rhino riders, etc, each have their own domain, does anyone know where these are? Also, it is written (I think) that Praxians herd and ride their totemic beasts. Obviously, there are exceptions. BUt do Rhino riders eat rhinos? And what do unicorn riders herd? Or is the distinction that ONLY the major tribes herd AND ride the same beast? _______________________________________ From the sources I have at hand (but being too lazy to consult them closely), the answer seems to be that the various tribes are (what else?) nomadic. Depending on the season, one can find them in different areas of Prax and the Wastes. In HEROES, the defunct A/H magazine, there was a write up on an minor tribe (Ostrich) that gave their actual migratory pattern, which I think stuck to areas of Prax. Old copies of WF and a later repeat of the article in HEROES seems to indicate that the Agamori are more sedentary and remain in a single area, and I *think* the Borderlands pack suggested that the Morokanth there were but a single community of the whole. I would expect them to be much more settled, and perhaps dabble in agriculture, as they are ill-suited to nomadic travels (they ride in panaquins instead of on animal back--takes more herd men?). My questions in this area are: 1. How much of the population is in Prax, and how much in the Wastes? KoS, Cults of Prax, and Borderlands make the Wastes sound unlivible, but the Genertela pack said that only the Vultures Country was really rough, and the rest was more like Prax, which was a holy area and the preferred living place of all tribes. There are multiple references to tribes earning the right to live there year round (by force); other tribes being forced into the Wastes or even into Vulture's Country. The Bison Riders were pushed there after the battle of Moonbroth. 2. Does the entire tribe travel together at all times, or do the clans spread out over wide areas, interspersed with each other? I suspect the latter is the case, except during open warfare or when in winter camp. I think Greg was getting at this also. Regarding the riding and herding of their totemic beasts: This is a point on which I disagree with the published lore (I think it's from WF and Genertela). Supposedly, the nomadic tribes do NOT eat their own beast, they raise the herds for riding animals, milk, etc. Their staple of meat comes from hunting and the raiding of OTHER tribes herd animals. I can't see this, as it means a choice between a constant state of warfare between the tribes, or starvation. Granted, some food they eat is not meat, but grain, etc. exacted as tribute from locations like Horn Gate, plus roots, berries, etc. I *can* see them constantly raiding each other's herds for additional meat, or more heavily during times of hardship; I just can't see other tribes as their sole meat source. If that were the case, social controls would soon dissolve, and all out warfare to someone's extinction would quickly take place. Then population would start building back towards the limit the area could support and the cycle would repeat. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Malthus always gets the last laugh. --RAH +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ BTW, I hope someone can get some use out of that Gyzar write-up I did. I'd probably do it much different now, as it predates the Land of Ninja and Genertela. At the very least, I'd give it a more Oriental name! After reading the Genertela pack, I decided that they should be based in Kralorela, but that a splinter group might have left during the usurpation of the false Dragon Emperors and set up a small monastary in the Border Marches between Prax and Heortland (south of the Storm Mountains), where they operated terrace farms and generally kept to themselves, as well as being thought of as very strange by all others. I worry about having a large enough genetic pool if it's only a few hundred of them though..... Charlie Domino