(Message inbox:197) Return-Path: appel@erzo.berkeley.edu Delivery-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 93 01:09:38 -0800 Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by soda.berkeley.edu (8.6.4/PHILMAIL-1.10) with UUCP id BAA04737 for appel@soda.berkeley.edu; Tue, 14 Dec 1993 01:06:37 -0800 Received: from localhost by erzo.berkeley.edu (8.3/LUCK-AND-DEATH-1.1) id BAA04828; Tue, 14 Dec 1993 01:44:19 -0800 Resent-Message-Id: <199312140944.BAA04828@erzo.berkeley.edu> Received: from localhost by erzo.berkeley.edu (8.3/LUCK-AND-DEATH-1.1) id HAA02906; Mon, 13 Dec 1993 07:52:04 -0800 Received: from Sun.COM (Sun.COM [192.9.9.1]) by soda.berkeley.edu (8.6.4/PHILMAIL-1.10) with SMTP id HAA05968 for; Mon, 13 Dec 1993 07:06:34 -0800 Received: from snail.Sun.COM (snail.Corp.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11047; Mon, 13 Dec 93 00:16:32 PST Received: from Holland.Sun.COM (isunnl) by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19711; Mon, 13 Dec 93 00:16:23 PST Received: from glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM by Holland.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1e) id AA21526; Mon, 13 Dec 93 09:16:18 +0100 Received: by glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08491; Mon, 13 Dec 93 09:15:15 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 09:15:15 +0100 From: RuneQuest-Request@glorantha.holland.sun.com (RQ Digest Maintainer) Sender: RuneQuest-Request@glorantha.holland.sun.com (RQ Digest Maintainer) Organization: Lankhor Mhy and Associates To: RuneQuest@glorantha.holland.sun.com (Daily automated RQ-Digest) Reply-To: RuneQuest@glorantha.holland.sun.com (RuneQuest Daily) Subject: RuneQuest Daily, Mon, 13 Dec 1993, part 1 Message-Id: Precedence: junk Status: O Resent-To: appel@soda.berkeley.edu Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 01:44:17 -0800 Resent-From: Shannon Appel X-RQ-ID: Intro This is the RuneQuest Daily Bulletin, a mailing list on the subjects of Avalon Hill's RPG and Greg Stafford's world of Glorantha. It is sent out once per day in digest format. More details on the RuneQuest Daily and Digest can be found after the last message in this digest. --------------------- From: pearton@unpsun1.cc.unp.ac.za (Dave Pearton) Subject: Slarges and Vadeli Message-ID: Date: 11 Dec 93 18:49:17 GMT X-RQ-ID: 2616 Ok, I have a few questions for the Glorantha gurus out there (particularly Sandy) I'm thinking of sending a party from Genertela to Pamaltela (largely because of the great material from Sandy- Thanks ;), but I need to know a few things: 1) What are Slarges? I've heard references to them as bitter enemies of the Dorradi, but I've never seen a description of them, their society or their capabilities. 2) Are the elves and humans in Pamaltela all enemies? Or are there some societies that get along with them? 3) Getting there. I've always wanted to know more about the Vadeli? Why are they universally hated? They are atheist like the Brithini and I seem to remember that they are also immortal - what are the differences/similarities? Um, that should be the start of a good few threads...:) Thanks Yak -- *********************************************************************** Dave Pearton * ....As I was saying before I Biochemistry Dept. * was so rudely interrupted University of Natal * by one of my multiple Pietermaritzburg * personalities.... * pearton@unpsun1.cc.unp.ac.za * Naked Lunch (W.S. Burroughs) ************************************************************************ --------------------- From: watson@computing-science.aberdeen.ac.uk (Colin Watson) Subject: Chaos; Elementals Message-ID: <9312121607.AA01100@condor> Date: 12 Dec 93 16:07:25 GMT X-RQ-ID: 2617 _____ Sandy sez: >I still think that gorp "acid" is not the same chemical thing as true acid, >but some other dissolving substance. Damn, there goes my plan of dive-bombing Slimestone with a coupla tonnes of baking soda. ;-) _____ Geoff sez: >And Andrew Raphael's comments on it (possibly) being a chaos elemental - YES! It's certainly an appealing idea. They have CON instead of STR, but other than that there's a lot of similarity (and, as Sandy always says, Chaos doesn't have to obey the RQ rules anyhow). >So is chaos the zero'th element ? Well, my RQII book categorises it as a Form rather than an Element; but, what the hell, most of the universe is composed of Chaos (Glorantha is just a blip in a sea of entropy right?) so I don't see why it shouldn't be considered an element. In fact, it seems to me to have the properties of an Element, a Form *and* a Power (opposed by Law). Unsurpisingly, it seems that Chaos is hard to categorise. How about this: Chaos is an amalgamation of all other things. A jumbled conglomeration of every element, form & power in the universe. It destroys by removing the structure which allows us to distinguish between the other runic elements, forms & powers. It leaves an unidentifiable mush which has no distinguishable properties other than its ability to corrupt. >That brings up a point that's always bugged me - elementals. But the RQ >cosmology makes no provision for the elemental planes - apart from the >elementals, they're never referenced. I'm swimming in vast areas of ignorance >here - any enlightenment ? It seems to me that elementals are very much part of the mundane plane. Their spirits are mindless but capable of forming bodies on the mundane plane in areas where their element is prevalent. Undines congregate in deep seas and lakes; salamanders gather in volcanoes etc. Other than that they don't do much unless controlled by magic. Undines flow; Salamanders burn (and, I guess, Gorps corrupt). They are not overtly agressive except by the nature of their elemental composition and generally hostile environment. Since they're so dumb, I guess they must wander the Spirit Plane for rather a long time before finding a suitable Mundane place to form a body. When their substance is destroyed, their spirits return to the spirit world. ___ CW. --------------------- From: watson@computing-science.aberdeen.ac.uk (Colin Watson) Subject: Planes Message-ID: <9312121613.AA01189@condor> Date: 12 Dec 93 16:13:10 GMT X-RQ-ID: 2618 _____ Sandy sez: >CW>Wish I knew what that "now only a shadow on the Spirit Plane" bit >CW>meant... > >It means that certain lucky (unlucky?) heroquesters are able to >encounter Nysalor/Gbaji there (the Red Goddess did, frex). So are the SpiritPlane & the HeroPlane/GodPlane actually the same place? (I thought otherwise.) If not, what would heroquesters be doing on the Spirit Plane? ___ CW. --------------------- From: cjl@carmenta.se (Carl-Johan Lundell) Subject: Lunar PCs Message-ID: <9312121721.AA28680@carmenta.se> Date: 12 Dec 93 19:21:22 GMT X-RQ-ID: 2619 Hello all, I have been running Gloranthan RQ games for several years and always had PCs with Sartar/Prax background. Now I am planning to start up some new player groups and thought I might try to have a group of Lunar PCs. I think some of you guys have some experience of Lunar PCs and I would like to ask for some advice: Where should the group start? (Prax, Sartar, in the Empire, ?) What would be suitable character backgrounds? (Soldiers, settlers, ?) Scenario ideas? Would any of the published scenario packs provide a good start? Should the players be new to or familiar with Glorantha? Any other advice? I would be grateful for all advice. Thanks, Carl-Johan Lundell Sweden --------------------- From: gbailey@aol.com Subject: unsubscribe gbailey@aol.com Message-ID: <9312121951.tn28653@aol.com> Date: 13 Dec 93 00:51:38 GMT X-RQ-ID: 2620 UNSUBSCRIBE GBAILEY@AOL.COM --------------------- From: PATERNO@D0SB15.FNAL.GOV Subject: Where to find _King of Sartar_? Message-ID: <931212234305.3ac00303@D0SB15.FNAL.GOV> Date: 12 Dec 93 17:43:05 GMT X-RQ-ID: 2621 Hi all, I've been looking around the far western Chicago suburbs for a copy of _King of Sartar_ without any luck. All the common bookstores cannot even find the title listed in their catalogues of books in print. Can one of you folk who *have* a copy tell me where I can buy one? Even the name and address of the publisher would be a help... thanks, Marc ---------------------