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Subject: RuneQuest Daily, Fri, 17 Dec 1993, part 2
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From: henkl@yelm (Henk Langeveld - Sun Nederland)
Subject: Re: RQ-Tekumel
Message-ID: <9312161957.AA16460@yelm.Holland.Sun.COM>
Date: 16 Dec 93 21:57:42 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2664
Nick Brooke:
>I for one would absolutely, unconditionally *love* to see it. If demand is
>poor, perhaps Henk could fix a limited-distribution Digest for it (as with
>Joerg's latterday hexmaps)?
I could do that, although no-one actually requested to be
excluded from that digest issue. I hereby ask all of you:
If you don't want to receive Sandy's RQ tekumel rules, speak
now, or hold your peace forever...
--
Henk | Henk.Langeveld@Sun.COM - Disclaimer: I don't speak for Sun.
oK[] | My first law of computing: "NEVER make assumptions"
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From: paul@phyast.pitt.edu (Paul Reilly)
Subject: Lunars and Chaos
Message-ID: <9312162111.AA05658@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu>
Date: 16 Dec 93 21:11:28 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2665
Paul Reilly here.
In our campaigns there are respectable Lunar philosophers who
promulgate views such as these :
Chaos is the lack of structore that surrounds
Glorantha (and is more or less in contact with it at every point - this
is not just a physical surrounding). Many other schools (e.g., various
Western schools) would agree. Chaos is not evil in itself - on the contrary
it is the combination of Chaos and Order which gives rise to the vital
world as we know it. The trouble comes when Chaos invades the central world.
Many things which would not be considered Chaotic if encountered in Deep Hell
or the Outer World (or even the Upper World*) would be unnatural in the
central world. Such, for example, is the Crimson Bat. Sufficiently far out
from the Center it would become a natural thing. Once the Lunar boundaries
have reached that far, then this guardian of our borders will resume its
role as a natural being. Until then it is a painful necessity - but at least
its destructive powers are harnessed to protect the innocent people of the
Heartland. And its chaos is controlled and mitigated by the Goddess - who
knows what depredation it wreaked in the Underworld ere its power was harnessed
by the Goddess?
* An example of this was a small enamel-work portrait brought back to the
Tripolis by a heroquester who went to the Upper World. It was "Chaotically
Beautiful" - i.e., it was more beautiful than allowed by the laws of nature
in the central world. Don't worry though, a Storm Bull destroyed it...
----
When Chaos invades Glorantha it breaks down the structure that is
there. This is like a rip in the fabric of the world, often a spreading
rip. The world soul (Glorantha or Arachne SOlara?) reacts against this,
'cloaking' the chaos in a Gloranthan form. Instead of Reality rushing away
wholesale into the howling Void we have a chaos creature or thing. The krjalki
thus formed is like a patch placed over the rip to keep it from spreading.
The 'fabric of reality' is stretched and distorted around the patch - thus
natural laws can be suspended giving rise to so-called 'chaos features'.
However, Reality is still leaking away through it - the hole is only patched,
not truly closed off. This creates a pressure in the krjalki which impels it
to destroy Order. It is a slower version of the chaos hole.
Nysalor brought us the gift of truly closing off such leakage. Through
Illumination, chaotic entities can fully close off the Chaos Hole within
them and be fully integrated into Gloranthan reality. By the effects of
Illumination we may see that a true repair has been effected. No longer does
the creature need to destroy all around him - thus we know that no further
leakage of Order is occurring. Also, the Uroxi can no longer sense the
fabric of the World leaking away through the former krjalk. Some (See
Lhankor Mhy references) would attribute this to a deception on the part of the
Nysalori. Should we believe that Urox, who defeated the Supreme Incarnation
of Evil, can be so easily deceived? It is easier to posit that the damage
has been truly repaired and that the reason Uroxi do not experience their
famous "chaos headaches" in the vicinity of an Illuminated former krjalk is
that the chaos is simply no longer there. True, the 'fabric of reality' may
still be stretched around the creature, but the rip has been rewoven into the
Great Web and no further 'leakage' is occurring.
Here we see the superiority of the Lunar Way. While others kill krjalki and
leave their infected spirits untended in Hell (perhaps to be reincarnated
later), we, through Illumination, may cure the damage once and for all. It
is the continual sapping of the world's spirit and order through the agency
of Chaos that has led to the destructive Cycles of Wakboth that ever
diminish the world. The world is not what it was in the First Age, or
even the Second. Only through the Lunar Way can the destructive Cycles be
halted and the world healed. Other ways appear to be stopgap measures at
best, doomed to ultimate failure.
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From: gstafford@aol.com
Subject: RQ/Tekumel
Message-ID: <9312161644.tn95936@aol.com>
Date: 16 Dec 93 21:44:34 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2666
I do not wish to receive these rules.
thanx.
- g
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From: mcarthur@fit.qut.edu.au (Mr Robert McArthur)
Subject: Blue trolls - whoops, I mean Moon ;-)
Message-ID: <199312170001.KAA09530@fitmail.fit.qut.edu.au>
Date: 17 Dec 93 15:01:19 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2667
Sandy confides
> An Interesting Note:
> Annilla, A.K.A. the Blue Moon, is the goddess of assassins and secret
> societies, tides and secret powers. Her specialty spirit magic spell
> is Invisibility (remember from RQ I?), and her specialty Rune magics
> are Concealment and Vision (also from RQ I). She can also summon up
> blue Lunes which operate a bit different from regular Lunes.
Ok, I'll bite: how to blue lunes differ from regular lunes? I have sort of
imagined that regular lunes were black, not red. Is this less-than-right?
Robert
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From: carlf@panix.com (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: RQ-Tekumel
Message-ID: <199312170313.AA15102@panix.com>
Date: 16 Dec 93 17:13:52 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2668
Henk.Langeveld@holland.sun.com (Henk Langeveld - Sun Nederland) writes:
H>If you don't want to receive Sandy's RQ tekumel rules, speak
>now, or hold your peace forever...
I'm not actually all that interested (I'm suffering from
rules-overdose) but it isn't that big of a deal to not read a message.
People receiving the Daily via a per-hour service a/r/e f/o/o/l/s/ would
be more worried.
--Carl
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