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X-RQ-ID: index
6429: 100270.337 = (Nick Brooke)
- Orlanthi Yelm
6430: langham = (Bernard Langham)
- Temple of Black Arkat
6431: T.J.Minas = (T.J.Minas)
- Styx Water and Truestones
6432: 100270.337 = (Nick Brooke)
- Storm Bull Sites
6433: scotty = (Scott Haney)
- Burns Supper
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From: 100270.337@compuserve.com (Nick Brooke)
Subject: Orlanthi Yelm
Message-ID: <941001084535_100270.337_BHL29-2@CompuServe.COM>
Date: 1 Oct 94 08:45:35 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 6429
Joerg & Sandy:
JB>> Well, the Orlanthi say that Yelm was meant to be a guardian only,
JB>> too, but that he usurped a sovereignty not his to take, and that
JB>> this caused the world to be almost destroyed.
SP> In the first place, I think this is an inaccurate portrayal of the
SP> Orlanthi POV.
It's an outgrowth of Joerg's own Aeolian theories. I think he'd agree it's
not the *normal* Orlanthi POV, but I'm unsure if he's trying to pull a fast
one by mentioning it here. It's possible Joerg has just forgotten where it
came from: it can happen to us creative types.
SP> Chaos Wastes (named for what _caused_ it, not for what lives in it,
SP> by the way)
I thought it was a description: "Chaos Wastes", like "Orlanth Wrecks". ;-)
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MOB:
> David Hall and Nick Brooke have been trying to convince me of late that
> Vega is in fact, really a *Light Son*
Tee hee! Frivolously, I assure you...
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Nick
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From: langham@cougar.multiline.com.au (Bernard Langham)
Subject: Temple of Black Arkat
Message-ID:
Date: 1 Oct 94 20:49:40 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 6430
The following deals (to my satisfaction anyway) with several thorny
questions surrounding the Temple of Black Arkat. In particular, it
explains (1) why the Temple appears on no map and (2) why it has no Troll
members.
The Temple of Black Arkat is not a place, but a Society of human Sorcerors
dedicated to the extirpation of Chaos through wholesale adoption of the
Way of Darkness as revealed to humanity by Arkat Kingtroll. The Black
Templars are excessively trollophile: they admire Troll culture, adopt
Troll dress and ape Troll customs. The Troll Adoption Rite (Book of Uz pp
34-35) is their supreme sacrement. Initiation into Troll cults is highly
prized. Most choose Argan Argar, since humans may join without being
transformed (painfully) into Trolls. Other, more zealous Templars may join
Kyger Litor the Angel of Darkness or Zorak Arkat the Black Angel of Death,
divesting themselves of their humanity the better to fight brute Chaos. A
few become obsessed with the inner secrets of Darkness and join the cult
of Subere. Their mission is to keep the Chaos Nest in Larnste's Footprint
from seeping through the Stonewood into the surrounding countryside. The
Black Arkati go out of their way to use extreme, Trollish methods when
fighting Chaos, and some of their more famous attrocities would give a
Zorak Zorani Death Lord pause. Their extensive use of the sorcery spell
Animate Dead to fight Chaos makes them very unpopular with Humakti. Trolls
view this Uz-wanna-be society with secret amusement, but respect its
anti-Chaos zeal. Obviously, no _real_ Uz would dream of becoming a member.
NB: reference to Angels above stems from my conviction that the Kitori
are Henotheists -- and hence capable of living side by side w/ trolls
whose Orlanth-unfriendly gods are conveniently incorporated into the
rubric of Malkionism as dutiful servants of the Invisible God.
Later,
~Barney
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Bernard Langham . langham@cougar.multiline.com.au . Perth, Western Australia
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From: T.J.Minas@soton.ac.uk (T.J.Minas)
Subject: Styx Water and Truestones
Message-ID: <199410011358.OAA12465@willow.soton.ac.uk>
Date: 1 Oct 94 15:58:40 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 6431
Hello all again. a thought which wandered past my consciousness
when I was walking home recently deserves wider publicity, so I
present it here.
If truestones can hold ANYTHING (INT, POW, skills, etc)
presumbably it can hold all of your memories, skills, etc, in
short, you, your entire "essence", as it were. So, go to the Styx,
bung all your memories etc into a Truestone, get yourself totally
inundated into the Styx, gaining all the requisite abilities etc.
As you are a mindless newborn equivalent when you do this (all
your skills etc being in the Truestone) it doesn't make you forget
anything. All you have to do now is to get all your memories,
spells, skills etc back from the Truestone! Some chunky
ritual/heroquest could probably do this for you. What do people
think? The perfect way to get the Styx powers when an adult.
Enough for now
Tim Minas
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From: 100270.337@compuserve.com (Nick Brooke)
Subject: Storm Bull Sites
Message-ID: <941001154237_100270.337_BHL50-1@CompuServe.COM>
Date: 1 Oct 94 15:42:37 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 6432
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Alex:
What does "Urox" say to you that "Storm Bull" doesn't, you lanky Scots git?
> Nick's doubleplusungoodwise-phrased point is obviously Correct for
> extreme cases like Ralios, at least. But what about, say, Sartar?
Obviously Sartar, being within spitting distance of the Block and regularly
raided by Praxian types, is almost certainly within Storm-Bull-as-described
territory. You'd get some local myths (like "How Orlanth Tamed Storm Bull")
unlikely to be known or told in Prax, but the Big Myth of the Block could
stay the same. In Ralios, that Big Mythical Event was so far away, under a
lump of Truestone that nobody's seen or heard of, that Ralian worshippers
of the Storm Bull almost certainly have another and different story for how
their god defeated the Devil. Otherwise it'd be like having a Hindu myth of
the Terrible Evil Thing under Ayer's Rock... (OK, distance and parallel
have been fudged to increase the ease of grasping what I'm on about).
If Ralios is "an extreme case", what on earth are Fronelan Storm Bulls
going to be like?
> Storm Walk mountain ... with a different spin
What, counterclockwise? Talk about doubleplusungoodwise phrasing! Also, I'm
not sure whether that's primarily a Praxian or a Holy Country story -- as
it's not mentioned in Nomad Gods but was developed for MoLaD, I'd suspect
the latter.
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Colin Watson:
> Nope, the closest a Shaman gets to resurrection is Create Zombie; and
> that does the spirit more harm than good.
This should not be so. For whatever strange reason, the authors of RQ3's
Spirit Magic chapter chose to leave out almost all the weird and wonderful
things shamans can do; possibly intending to print them "next year" in
HeroQuest. Shamans, like Wizards, can certainly resurrect through hefty
ceremonies. They can also visit gods to intercede with them directly: more
random and dangerous than Priestly access to divine power, but possible.
The game mechanics for Shamans are a blind to hide what they can in fact
do: a "ShamanPak" or long discursive essay by One Who Knows would be a very
handy thing to have. "Very Hard" sounds about right to me; but there's
plenty of us who'd like the Rune Magic Resurrect spells to be made that
difficult as well.
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Peter W: (Vega/Invictus)
> Oh joy! What a scandal. I sniff a scenario in this.
Ho ho ho. Though given my views on Sun Dome sexuality, perhaps it's less of
a problem than it looks...
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Nick
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From: scotty@olivia.cedar-rapids.ia.us (Scott Haney)
Subject: Burns Supper
Message-ID: <1f8106a1.8a596-scotty@olivia.cedar-rapids.ia.us>
Date: 1 Oct 94 16:19:13 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 6433
&
& Bashed neeps are neat turnip, alas, though mashed potatoes are traditionally
& served too. I should also mention the other, absolutely _key_ ingredient
& of a successful Burns' Supper: get too pissed to notice how appalling the
& food is.
Yeah, well, you have to be very careful with that...I tried it, and I wound
up proposing marriage later that evening!
Another topic: does anyone have stats for alynxes that they can send
me? I lost some stuff when I moved to my new house.
Scott (married one week as of today)
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