> The intervening sentence is important "He must give up any Use
> [Grimoire] gained from the school".
But why?
> The next sentence explains what Ban means: "This strips him of his
> rank in the school and acts as a curse to make his access to the
> school's nodes more difficult". The Abiding Book teaches a spell
> called the Ban Adept ritual which is being referred to here.
So you can in fact keep using the book, it is just that there is now a Ban to overcome?
> > Say I have "Use 'Pukka Grub' Grimoire
> >19" , "Seafood Omlette 3W" and "Stuffed Olives 5W", and then leave
> >the school. It is clear that I can continue to use and improve the
> >individual spells, and that I can't create a talisman for one of the
> >other spells contained in the Grimoire ("Carrot & Corriander Soup"),
>
> Correct because you have given up your Use "Pukka Grub" Grimoire.
Again, why do you lose the ability to Use the Grimoire? If Wizardry is about logical rote machinations of spells, how do you suddenly lose the ability?
> No as you've been Banned. You could try and make a new
> spell from the Grimoire that you have although this is not
> described in the rules.
huh?
> You haven't been Banned from using that grimoire. And
> to answer the question of why a school doesn't attempt to
> Ban all non-members from using their grimoire - a possible
> solution might be that the School can only Ban adepts
> that have belonged to their order. If they don't know who
> you are, they can't Ban you no matter how much they want
> to.
So this Ban spell only can be targeted at specific adepts? i.e. = We curse you to be unable to use the spells of the order? Can't they then do this to a specific spellcaster who has access, even if he found a grimoire, if they discover it later?
> The real question is whether they share the same grimoire and
> whether the grimoire has the same rune. As a rule, a grimoire
> links to one node and no other. Many grimoires may link to the
> same node.
>
A practical example involves the Iron Blood School (HQ p170)
> and the Bardan's Book order (HQ p172. The Iron Blood School
> has a grimoire: the Book of Conflict which teaches the spell: Give
> Soldier Courage while the Bardan's Book Order has a grimoire:
> the Army Book which also teaches the same spell.
>
> Both the Army Book and the Book of Conflict have a death rune
> attached to them. Hence they access the same node. The
> spell each school teaches is the same. If the grimoires don't
> have the same rune then the spells are different.
Umm... how do we know what rune is attached? Why is none of this discussed in the rules? (there's nothing about runes in the rules that imply they have any meaning) Does this mean someone from the Iron Blood School can band someone from the Bardan's Book order?
> >If the
> >latter and you leave one school for another with access to the same
> >node are you excluded by virtue of your having left your previous
> >school, or accepted as a member of your new school?
>
> The Ban ritual is in place. It can't affect the new grimoire that
> you know although some complications may if you try and
> use a spell common to the grimoire that you left behind and
> the grimoire that you know now. What these complications
> are really the stuff of adventures.
So in other words, ignore all of the above and make it up as you go?
LC
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