>> >>2) He can do this and uses Worship Kolat ability to bind the
>> >>spirit. The spirit becomes
>> >>a common magic charm with rating 13 (but can be increased).
>>
>>No, not common magic.
>
> Because if it's a spirit in the mundane world, it can only be made into a
> charm by somebody who understands the common magic religion precept? Which
> could be almost anyone, correct? You don't have to be an animist per se to
> learn how to get such a charm.
I was assuming that these weren't Mundane world spirits, but Spirit World ones that the hero was catching. If it's a mundane world one, then it becomes a CM charm, and yes, anyone (mostly) can do it. (MW Spirits "live" in the mundane world, SW ones "live" in the spirit world. Practice and tradition spirits are Spirit World ones.)
>> > Secondly if practice spirits cannot be increased then it would be odd
>> > that strange spirits that he encounters could be.
>>
>>Page 134 - Common Magic Charms, last paragraph. Bad rule (back in Common
>>Magic), IMO.
>
> The rationale I last heard was that spirits from the Spirit World do not
> learn and grow. Only spirits native to the mundane world can do that. Like
> people, for instance.
Dunno who said it, but I disagree. If it's popped into a charm/fetish, it can't grow no matter where it came from. But that's not really a rules question, but Deep Glorantha.
>>Even Shamans don't make captured spirits part of a Tradition/Practice.
>>Being
>>part of a Tradition/Practice is a link between the Spirit and the
>>Great/Majestic Spirit, not between the Spirit and a Mortal.
>
> Which said link makes it possible for practitioners who know the Majestic
> Spirit in question to bind the linked practice spirits.
Yes.
That's why it's the "Follower/Worshipper of [Great/Majestic Spirit]" that is used to bind the spirit, rather than, say, Spirit Face. You're telling the spirit "Get in this fetish/charm, 'cause your lord and Master says I can have you" (or "Get in there or I'll tell on you to your Lord & Master and he'll punish you" or other variations). You're using your relationship with the Great/Majestic Spirit to make his "follower" join you as a charm/fetish.
> I almost always stack the deck regarding my character's magic, and take
> abilities like "Talented with Befriending Spirits" or the like. For a
> theist
> it might be "Destined to Serve Destor." A current Galvosti wizard
> character
> has "Aptitude for Tapping."
We won't get into the whole powergaming issue again :-).
> I will say that it's often very interesting to be able to do something
> that
> your cult says you shouldn't be able to do.
Yes, *BUT* *I* think it should only be used sparingly, not every time you make a hero.
Now, I *am* really busy doing a layout project (Score that one, Bingo fans) so I'm going away.
RR
He was born with the gift of laughter and the sense that the world was mad
R. Sabatini, Scaramouche
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