Re: Re: Uroxi sense Chaos-tainted/marked ?

From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_...>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 22:50:33 +1200


At 11:32 AM 8/30/02 +0100, you wrote:

> > Barbarian
> >Adventures p37 states that a consequence of Kinstrife is either chaos
> >eruptions _or_ reprisals from the Gods (indicating that chaos is not an
> >automatic consequence).

>My point is that for cultures that do not recognise kinstrife as a problem,
>or where it is practically expected, chaos is automatically *not* a
>consequence.

Your position originally was that kinstrife was chaos.

>There is a cultural context to what leads to chaos.

But that does not mean that a specific act on that path is chaotic. In the case of kinstrife, the connection is weak because the myth that defines it does not mention chaos.

>BA also
>suggests a strong theme that *personally* taking part in kinstrife can lead
>to you becoming *personally* associated with chaos.

Where? The protagonist in the year of chaos is not indulging in Kinstrife. Rather he is worshipping Krarsht to get ahead and his crimes fall under "consorting with chaos". His actions would be kinstrife if he was warring with his kin first and turned to Krarsht to get revenge.

Not every little tiff that you have with your missus or clanbrother is kinstrife. It requires serious violence or death.

> >Then you've missed the ugly futile discussion of CharUn Rape
> >Etiquette?

>I completely fail to see your point. Please clarify.

As soon as people start speculating about the cultural relativism of chaos, they inevitably start dragging in rape and the CharUn.

--Peter Metcalfe

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