Thanks, my own view would that it would be unusual, but far from impossible.
>> > Is it plausible that a disrupted initiation could result in a girl
>> being
>> > stranded in the Otherworld?
>>
>> It'd involve some Narrator fudging, I'd think. Normally, I'd say the
>> initiate wouldn't be in the Otherworld on her own (others would be
>> playing the other parts in the ritual), but it's Narrator's call.
>
>Not at all. *All* initiations have parts which take place on the Other Side.
>That's where the Orlanthi kids were ambushed by Lokmayadan.
Very interesting! I'm using Bruce Ferrie's initiation myth. The final stage involves the child alone to face a ritual enemy. The rescue quest involves a mythlet of my own devising - wherein Vinga rescues a child snatched by evil spirits (either chaos or darkness depending on the versions you have heard). The goal of the quest is to rescue a lost child, so technically it might work ... (but who'd be stupid enough to try a hero quest at such short notice ... my players!).
>> > If so, what kind of disruption would be needed? Physical scattering
>> of the
>> > congregation, regalia and so on, what else ... ?
>>
>> Something substantial enough to break down the connection to the
>> Otherworld. For a Shamanic Circle, all you have to do is break the
>> circle (I know... I'm still on the Otherside...), but for theists the
>> connection is a bit more resilient. However, a well-aimed brick to
>> the Vingan Ritual leader's head should do...
>
>Check NB 21 for the physical effects of destroying a temple whole people are
>on the other side - they are unharmed at least until they come back. So the
>raiders will catch the initiation ceremony between the God-talker leaving
>the girl on the Other Side, and the girl coming back a full-fledged Vingan
>(or, alternately, the God-talker is trapped on the Otther Side as well).
I'm thinking that riding through the ritual, scattering congregation and regali and busting a few heads should be enough.
>It's not *really* impious, I can see certain sorts of people saying "well
>heck, that was the best time to do it". The Raiding Clan will certainly be
>in Vinga's bad books, but most people will expect the raided clan/the
>vingans to take care of the problem in their own way - as wulf says, a damn
>good kicking.
I'm thinking you Orlanthi are less pious than most of mine! Yes
>Who does the clan belong to? To the tribe of the raidees, or another? If the
>same tribe, then they'll need to take it up in court, with both sides
>calling characetr witnesses, etc. If another tribe, then they'll have to get
>the tribal kings involved if they want a court case.
Same tribe. I'm likely to take it to tribal moot. My guess is that the (naughty) clan chief will outlaw the family to scapegoat them and try and brazen out the rest. (The naughty clan here is the Rakstani whi I always seem to end up feuding with in KoDP. Just my way of revenge).
Many thanks to you and Wulf for the comments.
Thom
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