> > Yelmalio replaced Elmal within Old Sartar rather thoroughly (the
> > degree is dependant on the needs of the campaign - although Thunder
> > Rebels may say otherwise)
>I don't think so. Monrogh and the other few thousand Yelmalio
>worshippers left Old Sartar for the Sun Dome lands. They are exiles
>not mainstream.
The sources imply they are mainstream. The Elmali were causing trouble in Tarkalor's time and before.
Before the time of Tarkalor there was great dissension
among the Quivini Tribes which made them easy prey to
their foes. The quarrel stemmed from an increasingly
powerful and vocal cult within their cultural religion.
KoS p195.
[In Jarosar's reign] Treachery among the tribes came
to the fore when the Elmali tribes refused to help him.
KoS p139.
[In Tarkalor's reign] Tarkalor brought peace with the
sun worshippers at last. He gratified the Elmal worshippers
by seizing new territory, and granting it to them for
their own rule. In this way a new tribe was formed at
the borders of Sartar [...]
KoS p139.
[Tarkalor] sought allies among the enemies of his father,
and promised the disgruntled Elmali that they could have
their own lands, and the chance to make their own rules, if
they would help him in his task against darkness.
KoS p196.
Note the trouble is not among the Elmali, it's the Elmali clans struggling against the Orlanthi majority. This doesn't look like radical Elmali exiles struggling against the established Elmali religion.
>"In Sartar the great hero Monrogh established the cult. He originally
>worshipped Elmal, the sun of the Orlanthi pantheon, but followed
>other lights and entered into doctinal disputes with the Orlanthi
>priests who normally ranked over the sun.
He isn't arguing with Elmali priests, is he?
>A few thouand
>people departed from the worship of Elmal and converted to Yelmalio,
>then left their homelands and settled in the new grant by the
>Creekstream River.
Which would be equal to the number of Elmali within Old Sartar at that time IMO.
>Don't forget that KoS created a few issues that needed to be
>resolved. AFAIK this was one attempt to do that. Note that there
>existing temples of Yelmalio that Monrogh contacts.
The only Sun Dome Temples that still existed were the ones in Balazar and the River of Cradles. All other Sun Dome Temples had been destroyed in the collapse of the EWF. As the Q-and-A says:
When the EWF fell many of these temples were destroyed. Most
the remaining members were slain during the Dragonkill War as
part of the True Golden Horde. Most temples fell into ruin,
or became isolated from the world.
After this only the Temples of Prax and Balazar are mentioned. The other Yelmalio temples that you refer to would have been the temples to the other Yelmalio gods in Dara Happan lands (mentioned in the following Q-and-A excerpt):
Yelmalio is actually just one name for the deity. It is the
common and public name but it is more properly a title that
means "Brightness of Yelm." This title it is used for *a number
of different gods in Dara Happa* [my emphasis - PHM] who derive
their powers form that transcendant core of light called Yelm,
either by their worshippers or by outsiders who have trouble
telling the gods apart.
not the Yelmalio of the Sun Dome Temples within Orlanthi lands. As stated on KoS p197, the Sun Dome Temple in Tarsh was imported from Sartar and from there to elsewhere within the Empire.
Getting a bit too deep. Want to take it to the glorantha-digest when it gets back up?
--Peter Metcalfe
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