Re: Last Refuge of Scoundrels

From: Trotsky <TTrotsky_at_...>
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 22:11:39 +0100


Bryan Thexton:

>Essentially a prince of Loskalm and companions managed to kill
>a "god" (why a god in sorcerous Loskalm? Not sure)
>

He wasn't a god; he was a powerful Essence. Probably one of the ones venerated (well, until he was killed, anyway) by the Syanorans. Damn pagans always copy these things down wrong - you can't trust them, you know.

>at about the end
>> of the second age (this was the end of the second age in Fronela,
>> just like the closing and the DragonKill ended it elsewhere)
>

Actually no, this was clearly in the Third Age, and pretty recently at that. The end of the Second Age in Fronela is marked largely by the retreat and fall of the God Learners, and by the Closing.

>When the syndics ban dropped from one region that had been
>unremarkable prior to the syndics ban,
>

Not just unremarkable - most of it wasn't even *there*. Oh, there was a small forest with trolls in it, but what came out from behind the Ban was much larger. It shoved the entire coastline several miles to the west...

>It is of course tempting to think of the Kingdom of War as the karmic
>balance to Loskalm, that as Loskalm made itself ever more virtuous,
>its cast off sins somehow came to rest in the Kingdom of War. But
>surely that can't be....
>

Perish the thought. Loskalm purged itself of all it nastiness by expelling it all into the Ban. And things you throw into the Ban don't come back. Right?

LC:

>Depends on how virtuous you think Loksalm really is.
>

Pretty virtuous, on the whole. They're still human, of course, with all the foibles that implies, but generally speaking, the Loskalmi do mean what they say.

> So much of the West seems tied
>to formal ritual acceptance of the status quo. Is Loksalm social mobility just a paper
>overlay? Despite the best preaching from the pulpit, does it seem to end up that the
>same noble families end up on top anyway, progressing through the ranks faster while
>others toil so much longer as a farmer?
>

That almost certainly does occur to some extent - with human nature being what it is, it would be difficult to prevent. But, having said that, there are many people who have risen through the ranks in Loskalmi society from humble beginnings. There's a point at which daddy being able to buy you training and social contacts won't make up for a lack of ability - and Loskalm *is* a meritocracy.

>The Kingdom of War certainly seems to break the Gloranthan standard of "nothing is
>straight good or evil", doesn't it?
>

I think there are a few things in Glorantha that are pretty straight evil (KoW, Vadeli, Broo). 'Good', on the other hand, is more a matter of perspective...

-- 
Trotsky
Gamer and Skeptic

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