Re: Orlanth cares

From: Julian Lord <julian.lord_at_...>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:48:12 +0100


Greg Stafford :

> Some people discussing this have confused political action with religious
> action. Orlanth only cares about who you woship, not who you attack.

However, such religious cults and political organisations share deep links, and in most cases a political action and a religious action will actually combine into one single action.

Political organisations and religious ones have it in common that all create "circles of exclusion", defining for instance who is kin and who is non-kin.

In the case of the Heortlings and their religions, these circles cover separate areas of society, and it is therefore possible to be :

Inside both the political and the religious

    An outstanding Orlanthi of the clan

Outside both the political and the religious

    A hungry devotee of the Crimson Bat

Inside the political, outside the religious

    The local witch of Malia

Outside the political, inside the religious

    The Seshnelan Knight who Quests to climb Mount Kero Fin

A fairly crude model admittedly, and it should be remembered that Heortlings multiply these various spheres quite bewilderingly (there are many many clans, and many many cults, and many many many overlapping circles of exclusion).

One important difference though with RW schemes is that Gloranthan otherworld entities (such as Orlanth) are self-evidently manifest in the cosmogony of the world : ie in Glorantha "outside the political, inside the religious" is a fully discrete possibility, which in RW is a debatable one (depending on one's beliefs).

So, Greg is correct as far as Glorantha is concerned, but not as RW is.

Julian Lord

PS not too GD-ish I hope.

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