RE: Re: Immortals vs. 'Heroes'

From: Jane Williams <janewilliams20_at_...>
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:36:37 +0100

> > So the army in a battle may well be useful, but is nothing to do
> with the
> > level of their personal abilities. A HQ to help them gain new
> abilities,
> > though, can be made easier by having community support, and so
> indirectly,
> > having lots of followers will mean that they have higher abilities.

Jeff:

> Wouldn't this depends on the relationship between the army and its
> hero? An army of 10,000 diverse folk that follow a leader for plundr
> or because they have to are unlikely to provide more than ordinary
> support (+1 community support). A host of 100 led by a charismatic
> hero who they have pledged body and soul to might provide total
> support (+12).

Well, yes, but I don't see that this makes any difference to the original question, does it? "Lots of support", whether by quality or by quantity, can still only apply that +12 or whatever in certain ways, right?

Mind you (diving off at a tangent), I've always found the rules for community support a bit dodgy, in that you can get very different results by dividing the groups up. If you have ordinary support from everyone in your tribe: +1. But if you go through that tribe clan by clan: +1 from each clan. Maybe this is why the Orlanthi never unify properly - they've read the rule-book, and they know they're better off acting in tiny groups!