Re: What's a Keyword? Gender Issues

From: Jane Williams <janewilliams20_at_...>
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:12:37 +0000 (GMT)

I don't know enough about Tarshites to say, but if the weapon mentioned in the *homeland* keyword is axe, then presumably that's the standard weapon, not the specialist one. If it isn't, then for "axe", read "spear".

> The
> axe is the Tarshite warrior's weapon just as the
> sword is for Sartarites.

Well, if you discount the idea that Vingans get *spear* magic specifically. I've never understood why, myself, just assumed that in that case Sartarite fighting style must in some way make a spear just as useful a weapon as a sword for a full-time warrior. Or ignored the whole "Vingans specialise in spears" invention, since they never used to, and there's no reason given.

> I'd agree that upper class DH women are very
> unlikely
> to even learn how to use a dagger but in the rougher
> parts of the cities I'm sure many woman learn to use
> a knife or dagger for self defence.

I agree that that would be the sensible thing to do, but we're talking about Darra Happans :(

> As Greg indicated the skill probably should be
> "brawling" rather than a proper fighting skill.

(nods) Makes a lot of sense.

> And in a fight
> against someone with a proper combat skill brawling
> should have a -10 modifier.

Unless the "proper combat skill" is something like formal rapier duelling, and the fight is in fact a brawl :)

> I don't think this approach is useful in dealing
> with
> gender keywords. A steadwife could easily be
> stronger
> than a male sage and I'm sure Heortling women boast
> - just about different things.
> I'd restrict the gender
> keyword to physical absolutes.

Men being (on average) stronger (and taller) than women is pretty much a physical absolute, isn't it?

> As far a cultural
> differences go even for DH culture a single homeland
> keyword with the differences spelt out, as the
> Heortling one does, should be sufficent.

Well, much of what I'm suggesting is that except in extreme cases like Dara Happa, the homeland keyword should *not* have gender differences.

Though in that case I start to wonder where to put "boastful", "coldhearted", and other
Heortling-specific gender differences. Hmm. This is always going to be harder and more complicated than it looks :(

> It's actually going back to the Hero Wars rule
> whereby
> abilities from the cultural (now homeland) keyword
> are
> at 13 while the occupation abilities are at 17.

It is, isn't it?

> In that
> context having things like farming and spear &
> shield
> combat appear in the homeland keyword make sense.
> They
> may appear in the character's occupation keyword as
> well but here they are at a lower level.

Yes. Very good point. And I think having the homeland lower than the profession is often sensible, too: well, vary the proportion depending on the character's experience, perhaps.                                   



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