Re: why is everyone so down on Arkat?

From: gamartin_at_...
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 09:18:50 -0000

> Myth in our world can be as important to some cultures as that
which we call
> historical fact but in our culture the truth is literally 'out
there' for us
> to discover by experience or science or God or whatever.

Oh I think mythmaking DEFINATELY goes on in the real world on a daily basis, events of 1st May being a very current example.

> In Glorantha myth is the whole deal - when heroes and gods etc are
involved
> in a historical account, the facts (as we see them) *can* have
little
> bearing. It all depends on your point of view.

Well, its certainly the case that mythic worlds can even adjust history retroactively - Mage: The Ascension has this too. But there, even though the character information may well be contradictory and incopmplete, and even player information might as well, the GM information is not. So I don't feel lost as a GM, even if the players are operating under misperceptions.

> George Lucas wrote a line in his script of Episode 4 where Obi-Wan
speaks
> points of view: 'Luke, you're going to realise that many of the
truths we
> cling to depend on your point of view' (or something like that)

Oh absolutely - in fact one might argue that all of politics is the disentangling of conflicting interpretations of material events. But thats not the kind of experience I buy an RPG for.

He's talking
> about justifying not telling Luke about his famous father and he
*was* right
> to do it in that way. These days we rely on knowing facts. The most
powerful
> stories don't deal in those.

No, I disagree - regardless of whether Obi Wan told luke or not, Darth Vader WAS actually his father. That was a story factm even if unkown or concealed. But the "GM" had no doubt as to the truth of this data point; only the characters did (and indeed, in some genres the player/audience might even know while the characters do not).

> would not stop others 'believing the lie' and having it work every
bit as
> well for them - IN EVERY WAY.

Well, no - thats the thing about material reality, IT is not subjective, only our interpetations of it are.

sorry, gota run

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