Morgan
> Don't have my book in front of me for their names, but the *other*
> Rinliddan cults (one is The Bat, right?), about which I've never
> complained, are clearly appropriate to a Pentan-Rinliddan conflict.
> Avarnia is, really, a stretch.
Hmm, it seems you keept willfully ignoring the point that I've made a number of times now. In Orlanthi culture there are many fertility and healing gods that will never be played by most players, yet have write-ups. Uralda would never get a player in any game I've run over the last ten years or with any player in my groups. However, she still should have a write up to give both the narrator and the players a concept of her role and abilities. The same applies in a Rinliddi book for their earth or herd cults. Personally I'd be happy to load the book up with war cults, orders of battle and tactical treatise but that would be a poor book and a poor way of representing their culture.
> As a peace offering, when you or Peter write a good myth/story about
> how a brave hero of Avarnia, the Goddess of fat quails, is essential,
Noone has ever said that there would be warrior heroes of Avarnia, that is the whole point. Again, I think you are willfully ignoring the point simply because your argument is seriously flawed and you don't wish to admit it.
> *as an Avarnan*, in defeating the nomad hordes, I'll buy you a beer.
> Something a lot better than "I was chasing Quails and found
> Stormbringer". :-)
If this kind of comment is your peace offering, I'd hate to see your
declaration of war...
>
> As for who is the major opposition of the Empire, when Issaries
> publishes 3 books and a computer game about the Pentans (to match the
> Sartar material, hmm, I guess you need to add a "King of Pent" book
> too), then I'll believe that they are the major opposition.
That is the most outrageous comment I've ever heard. Until the wane history all we had of Shengs campaigns was a couple of lines in a tiny timeline in the opening of the RQ2 book, yet without doubt, Sheng was the greatest conqueror of the third age. Your argument seems to be, that if there hasn't been as much material written about it as the Orlanthi in DP have written about them, then they those other cultures cannot be as important! In the HW, this is simply not true. Even the AH Genertela book, written before much new material has come out or has been developed shows plenty of HW events in other parts of Genertela.
You are being deliberately parochial to provoke a row I think.
>I'm just
> taking a *practical* look here, as a player, "what can I play now
> with excellent documentation and intriguing heroes", Sartarites are
> the choice.
That is the whole point of the dicussion. We are writing a Lunar book to change that situation. Way, way back, you offered advice on how to write that book and came up with the concept of writing a book to help flesh out the enemies of your Sartarite games rather than truly explore the Empire! Bizarre!
>The real live people who actually buy your books are
> more likely to be playing Sartarites than Pentans.
Only because the material is out there to play the Sartarites, but before the
latest HW stuff and KoS it was a LOT easier to play in Prax than Sartar.
Does that mean that the HW material on the Orlanthi should have been written
for a Praxian game centred view?
>
> And yes, I was under the "old, obsolete" impression that Lunars ran
> the Empire and kept the Solars well leashed.
They do and they do.
>Issaries are certainly free to *change* that.
Noone has changed that basic concept. The solar culture is controlled by the Lunar culture and being eroded by it, though DH culture has gained strength lately, it is very durable.
What I don't get is that you think that due to this historical situation, the writers of a book on solars should not actually write about the solar cults, because they are subservient the lunars politically? Or am I missing the thrust of your argument here?
>And I am free to say I find the Lunar side more interesting.
Well that is your right and opinion. Frankly, I don't know how you can say that so solidly till you know more about their culture, history and religions.
>Most Solars are, well, stuffy losers. :-)
A lot of them are, and a lot of them aren't. At least you said "most" which implies some hope for you yet.
Martin Laurie
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