> >Roughly from where the early 2nd Age Jrusteli storm people of the
> >southern bay immigrated from, before they went on to the Enklosan and
> >Vralan fields of eco-warfare along the rivers.
> Wrong. The Umathelans have their origins from all over the
> barbarian belt, not just Wenelia.
Unsubstantiated statement. There is no mention of mass emigration from northern Ralios, anywhere in southern Peloria or Dragon Pass overseas. There was some mention for Slontos. You might be able to contrive a case about Oranor near Akem, but that's nowhere published.
Where did the God Learners get all those farming barbarians from? The EWF wasn't selling. Neither the Only Old One, and by the time western Kethaela was under GL control, the seas were about to close.
> Something that I wish
> David Dunham would get a fucking clue about for once
> instead of just populating Umathela with fucking boring
> stupid fucking pig fuckers.
A bit of repetitious cussing.
Sheep won't do well in that forest, I suppose, but cattle oughta. Some lion barbarians would be fun, too.
> Which only demonstrates that you don't know what the ecological
> benefit is
Sez who?
> or how the Aldryami mentality works.
Ok, I'm no potted plant.
> The fire is a catastrophe to be survived through.
Fucking nonsense.
Umathela was inter-aldryami genocide zone. Some plants went way over the top to eradicate all others, taking the lizard riverfolk with them en passant. Aldryami subspecies in Umathela are likely to be at each others' roots with the same vehemence as your average Orlanthi clans.
So, if one group of species benefits from what is a catastrophe for the rest, what are the odds they don't use it?
> The best situation for a
> tree is that there be no fires whatsoever.
For a tree, true. For a forest, _not_. Unmitigated growth will lead to strangling vines (ficus trees) first smothering the rest of the higher trees, then exhaustion of the soil from monoculture. Occasional enforced rejuvenation will keep the forest healthy.
> The eucalyptus
> model that David keeps fucking going on about is for a
> hot dry environment.
IMO eucalyptus had better keep away from Umathela. Maybe in Zamokil.
So no contention there.
However, forests come in many stages, and the colonist tree species all thrive on the aftermath of forest fires. At the cost of the slower species, who will push the colonists out after some time by sheer stubbornness. So, you are bound to have different aldryami - some preferring stasis, others preferring opportunities to colonize.
In areas where there is active ecological warfare, the colonist types will be dominant.
If some of these colonists can use fire for better expansion, they will.
> In some remote parts of Fonrit near Vralos, there may be
> stretches of eucalyptus woods. But that's because the
> Fonritans have a habit of burning down any tree which
> is remotely elf-infested.
Possible. There are bound to be a number of selfish tree races somewhere in the region, and at least some forms of eucalyptus (or ecologically similar trees) survive in Europe as well. Unlike Enkloso, Vralos never was reported as "depopulated of aldryami".
(Even so, I doubt that the God Learners penetrated much deeper than the barbarian human settlements. Certainly never to the Tarien borders. And they tend to forget that aldryami seeds can be stored in the soil until some releasing event - like a fire - brings them to fruition.)
> And the Sequoias are in Prax.
Which has a climate not too dissimilar from parts of Enkloso.
All of this in the belligerous spirit of this civilized forum. Sod ya.
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