> > So you reject Jeff and Greg's fucking stupid retcon that Leika
> > is actually a worshipper of Redayle (who has no weapons magic
> > let alone leadership magic)?
>
>Elmal has no better archery magic than Orlanth (through Jorganos), and
>there were definitely no ponies in the caves of Snake Pipe Hollow, so
>no, I can't see Leika as pony girl. (Haven't seen her in that role,
>yet, either...)
Pshaw pshaw. You are relying on outdated sources that are based on character sheets nobody has ever seen so your argument is completely and utterly wrong.
Dunno what came over me...
>To me, Redayle is a nice source for LM wives you can tag along into
>field research.
Lhankor Mhy wives? Care to explain that?
>Looking at the Colymar King list, leading the warband (or
>expeditionary forces) appears to be what several of those kings are
>renowned for. It is not a necessity, but it is the mark of a strong
>leader.
I don't see how leading a warband is a mark of a strong leader. It could just indicate a foolish leader wasting his tribes wealth in wars.
> > Fuck the FHQ, we're talking about Orlanthi.
>Who did (fuck the FHQ - Sartar, Tarkalor, and Argrath). Choosing these
>as active wives and co-leaders for their Orlanthi followers shows that
>they find such female activities adequate.
If such females were "adequate" then why did Tarkalor, Sartar and Argrath have other wives? Of the other kings of Sartar, Saronil is the only other king to have two wives.
> >>and the best described non-healer female
> >>(Entarios the Cow, Enferaldan) within the rebellion is an accomplished
> >>heroquester (and will perish on the LBQ-follow-up into the nether
> >>hells, fightin' an' kickin').
>
> > Entarios the supporter would be a lot more impressive as
> > a hero if she could do something else other than throw
> > rug. As has been pointed out before, the Ernaldan Heroquests
> > by lying in bed and let somebody else do the hard work.
>
>All the useful myths for heroquesting involve intrigue and social
>interaction, be it at the Emperor's court or in Orlanth's rickety camp
>(when preparing the Making of the Storm Tribe).
Not really. Making of the Storm Tribe and the Emperors Court both have Ernalda as a passive object of affection rather than anybody doing anything useful. That you claim she was in intrigue is clutching at straws.
>Too bad no such HQs have been written.
King of Dragon Pass?
> > Nonsense. Bismark didn't lose any status when the demigods
> > commanded the army in times of war.
>
>Bismarck was a chancellor, not a king - a scheming rug tosser
>(Orventili) rather than a queen (if he had been a Heortling woman).
So why's he depicted in full plate and a two-handed sword in Hamburg? Bad fantasy sterotypes didn't start with D&D.
>Unless an Orendanan has firm control over her warlord (e.g. knowing
>that he'll feel the sacrificial knife within a near future), letting
>someone else build up such a tribal power base is dangerous.
Orendana is not the goddess of sacrifice - that is Ana Gor (hopefully no relation to Al Gor). And as for being dangerous, I thought you were claiming that the Ernaldans were good at intrigue while heroquesting? Or is it the fact they are good at intrigue while heroquesting but totally useless in the mundane world?
>Babeester is useful against Broos, but what about other chaos-fighting
>for female Heortlings?
What forms of chaos require special chaos-fighting magics?
> >>Animism, or mixed communal worship, common magic and animism (like
> >>Griselda - who incidentally turns out to be a dyke, after all)
> > If Joerg cares to stay on topic, he might recall that the subject
> > is about being a warrior women within the Orlanthi religion.
>If Peter would read up on the Heortlings, he might notice that there
>are animist practitioners in the clans.
Kolat and the Earth Witch, none of whom are fighting cults.
> Cutting Serdodrosa and Kolat from Storm Tribe was
>one of the worse editorial decisions...
Having had a recent look at Kolat, I'm less than sure it's right. It _feels_ right but the spirits are too specialized compared with other spirit cults, which seems wrong to me.
> >>Bevara, apparently with some battle- and personal self defence training
>
> > Yes. Earsplitting Scream, Dodge All Attacks, Hide Self etc
> > are just the type of magics needed to convince the skeptics
> > that women are just as capable as men...
>Two out of three are things any Uroxi would be happy to have.
Uroxi aren't the type of people that want to dodge attacks and hide in the shadows. The Uroxi are there to take the worst and laugh it off.
I suppose the earsplitting scream is helpful to have in a casino.
--Peter Metcalfe
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