From: owner-runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com (RuneQuest Rules Digest) To: runequest-rules-digest@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: RuneQuest Rules Digest V2 #145 Reply-To: runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com Sender: owner-runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com Errors-To: owner-runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com Precedence: bulk RuneQuest Rules Digest Monday, September 6 1999 Volume 02 : Number 145 RuneQuest is a trademark of Hasbro/Avalon Hill Games. All Rights Reserved. TABLE OF CONTENTS Re: Objet : [RQ-RULES] Death by DI RE: [RQ-RULES] Death by DI Re: [RQ-RULES] Death by DI and overDIing RE: [RQ-RULES] Webpage [RQ-RULES] NPC DI rolls Re: [RQ-RULES] Death by DI RULES OF THE ROAD 1. Do not include large sections of a message in your reply. Especially not to add "Yeah, I agree" or "No, I disagree." Or be excoriated. If someone writes something good and you want to say "good show" please do. But don't include the whole message you praise. 2. Use an appropriate Subject line. 3. Learn the art of paraphrasing: Don't just quote and comment on a point-by-point basis. 4. No anonymous posting, please. Don't say something unless you're ready to stand by it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 06 Sep 99 08:37:54 +0000 From: mike bate Subject: Re: Objet : [RQ-RULES] Death by DI > Emmanuel Ponette wrote: > > Do you think that if the character receive enough POW through Gift POW of Daka Fal, > > he can be resurected? How can I determine if someone is resurectable or not. > > In the case of 'POW Loss' by DI, the character's spirit is actualy intact and > in the hands of the god. I would rule that resurecting such a person might be > possible, but would itself require a DI - a direct appeal to the gods - in > addition to the normal resurrection procedure . A normal summon ghost should bring it back to ask it's opinion. If the spirit wants to remain with the gods it will be hostile, if it is willing to listen it will be neutral, and if it wants to help it will be friendly. Gifting Pow is a common means of sealing a bargain with a neutral ancestor. The gift Pow will work per the normal rules, and if the spirit is near the body, the resurrection can work. If the spirit was still with the god in the underworld, then it would certainly fail. Bob Stancliff *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. 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I would interpret this as POW=0 means >death, with only special circumstances leading to soul death, not the other >way around. I agree that POW and soul are not exactly synonymous, but they are closely linked and can be considered so for most purposes. I can't think of any other forms of POW loss which do not equate to loss of soul in one form or another. I'm thinking specificaly of magical POW sacrifices and Wraith attacks. Bob Stancliff : >If the spirit doesn't lose any Pow, then the DI shouldn't work. DI's >don't give something for nothing. Are you saying that the rain god is incapable of making it rain unless we worship him each time? You are clearly an unbeliever to doubt to power of the gods so. > Valid point. We are using the Soul Waste definition as a general rule >for Pow=0. DI provides an alternate interpretation. The open question is >whether sacrificing Pow to 0 is the same as DI, or does your soul get lost >on the spirit plane. I think if you genuinely loose all your POW then that's it, theres nothing left to constitute a soul. Much as a SIZ 0 person doesn't have much of a body to speak of either. In the cae of DI, we are explicitly told that the person's soul is not eliminated, so they clearly don't actualy end up with 0 POW. A miracle occurs! Simon Hibbs *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. 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No biggie for the Humakti, Hell they seemed to get off on it! Wandering a bit from the topic, how many GMs out there gave every NPC their DI roll? While I homebrewed the rules to allow for a little less instant death I also allowed every NPC who was able to access DI to do so - much to the chagrin of one of my players who also GMed, but only allowed DI for major opponents. Richard Andrew Barton wrote: > > I've always followed the RQ2 rule: a DI roll equal to POW means > that the spirit goes to serve its god, but retains its POW. > > Andrew > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. 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Whether they actually take them depends on (1) whether I remember (2) whether I think it adds to or takes away from the story (3) the Roger Rabbit rule: 'I can only do it when it's funny'. Andrew *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. RFC822 header - ----------------------------------- RECEIVED: from SF_Database by POP_Mailbox_-1275744483 ; 03 SEP 99 17:00:13 UT Received: by orpheus (mbox jsatch) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Sep 3 17:00:01 1999) X-From_: daemon Fri Sep 3 16:51:44 1999 Received: from lists.imagiconline.com (lists.imagiconline.com [204.85.32.11]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27116 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:51:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by lists.imagiconline.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA05865; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:41:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com) Received: by lists.imagiconline.com (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:41:03 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.imagiconline.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA05856 for runequest-rules-outgoing; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:41:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com) Received: from hpamgaaa.compuserve.com (ah-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.217.154]) by lists.imagiconline.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA05851 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:41:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from AndrewBarton@compuserve.com) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamgaaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-1.8) id LAA21124 for runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:40:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:40:03 -0400 From: Andrew Barton Subject: [RQ-RULES] NPC DI rolls To: "INTERNET:runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com" Message-ID: <199909031140_MC2-8386-E75C@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists.imagiconline.com id LAA05852 Sender: owner-runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com Reply-To: runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: 06 Sep 99 08:47:45 +0000 From: mike bate Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Death by DI > >> I see no reason why the loyal sevice of one's soul > >> in the heavenly host for 101 years, or whatever, couldn't count > >> as quite a sufficient sacrifice. Because it is not a sacrifice... look the word up. Serving the god is a guaranteed duty (and privilege) after death. The person isn't giving something they have not already promised to give. > > As a loyal follower, you are going to spend a huge portion of your > >afterlife aiding your god, so there is no reason for the god to take you > >early to something you are going to do anyway. The god certainly doesn't > >care about time, so he is in no hurry. The point was that it is stupid for the god to provide the miracle, leave your Pow intact, and still kill your body. One of these three points is WRONG. Either there is no miracle, you have zero Pow, or you are still alive. > The rules on DI clearly state that people rolling their full POW _are_ > taken up into the heavenly host to serve their god. I find it difficult > to see how you can argue that this doesn't happen. You have taken the discussion out of context. I have demonstrated from the rules that in most cases, a Pow=0 does not kill the spirit, only the body. Andrew Barton and I have both shown that the DI roll equal to the current Pow drops the Pow to zero. Since the body is dead, it is only right for the god to take the spirit to the afterlife. He has promised to do so, and it is an obligation. Of course it happens. > I do not believe that trading POW between a worshiper and the god is the > same kind of trade as a person paying coins to buy apples. A materialist might > view it in the same way, but theists are not materialists. It clearly seems to be a barter... I give the god something now so that he can give me something later. That doesn't make me a materialist. Barter is fundamental to all primitive and barbarian cultures. People worship gods based on their expectation of temporal rewards, however simple (like rain at good times and not at bad times). > My own view is that POW sacrificed for divine magic, or > even DI, is not the fuel that powers the magic. Instead > it opens the way for the divine powers to intervene in the world. All Initiates sacrifice Pow to gods to create a link from their soul to the god's. The first one allows the god to know his followers and receive their prayers and MP sacrifices. The rest are to allow the passage of spell effects back to the worshipper. The game rules draw a distinction between the Pow sacrifice of initiates vs. those of priests. In the old rules an initiate could become a priest if his Pow was high enough. In the current rules it can happen when enough Pow has been sacrificed. Probably both should be true, I kind of liked the old rules. It seems to me the energy to power divine spells actually comes from the MP's sacrificed by worshippers, and is channeled through the link formed by the sacrifice of Pow. The thing that makes a priest special is that this link is not burned out or broken during the process. This is apparently a choice of the god when he accepted the investment of the new priest. > > A sacrifice is a completely different process. The spell of a sacrifice > >uses the death of a creature to power the magic of some kind of summoning > >so that the caster doesn't have to. Without the sacrifice spell to > >redirect the victim's spirit, the victim would simply die. > That's certainly not how people in the ancient world viewed sacrifices, so I > fail to see why it should have to be that way in Glorantha, or any other RQ > world. > There are plenty of sources avilable on this. Sacrifices > were seen as gifts or offerings to otherworldly forces, > not 'energizer batteries' for magic. But what is the action that makes it a sacrifice? It is not the death of the victim. People die in battle all the time and only Elric confused that with a sacrifice. It is the ritual used to kill the victim, usually on an alter, that makes it a sacrifice. If you only put a knife into someone, they die and there is no effect. The spell, the prayer, no matter what it does, or how it works, is the necessary key. Why did the Aztecs climb way up those pyramids before cutting the victim's heart out? Because the ritual is part of the spell that makes it a sacrifice. > > The Daka Fal 'Summon Ancestor' doesn't require a spirit combat. The > >spirit would have Pow and MP's =0, which would make it easy to coerce or > >control, if that were desired, but the intention of summoning it was to > >Gift Pow so that it would be stronger. > Suppose I used the generic 'Summon Ghost' spell instead? You would get a trivial spirit combat. > I don't see how a creature with POW 0 can be coerced or controlled in any way. Once an opponents MP's are zero, a control spell is automatically successful and can be used to command the spirit or force it into a bind. Pow is not significant to the discussion. > You can't cast spells at it, because there is no aura to target. Summoned spirits are visible, they have been forced into the physical world. I could agree that Pow is a major contributor to the aura of a spirit, but I don't agree that it is the only factor. For that matter, Pow is equated to willpower and luck also. Last year someone argued that stats are not really integer quanta. There is logically a chance to have a residue after a stat is drained. This doesn't keep a body from dying, but it supports the idea that a spirit can still have some existence with a Pow=0. > You can't defeat it in an MP versus MP roll because there are no MPs there to overcome. Zero MP's are a valid number. Most spells are considered automatic in this case. Bob Stancliff *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. 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