From: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com (RuneQuest Rules Digest) To: runequest-rules-digest@lists.ient.com Subject: RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #15 Reply-To: runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com Sender: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Errors-To: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Precedence: bulk RuneQuest Rules Digest Friday, April 6 2001 Volume 04 : Number 015 RuneQuest is a trademark of Hasbro/Avalon Hill Games. All Rights Reserved. TABLE OF CONTENTS [RQ-RULES] Lowtech Re: [RQ-RULES] Callarduran for RQ/Greyhawk [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaaay back [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back Re: [RQ-RULES] Lowtech Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back Re: [RQ-RULES] Lowtech Re: [RQ-RULES] Lowtech Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back RULES OF THE ROAD 1. Do not include large sections of a message in your reply. Especially not to add "Yeah, I agree" or "No, I disagree." Or be excoriated. If someone writes something good and you want to say "good show" please do. But don't include the whole message you praise. 2. Use an appropriate Subject line. 3. Learn the art of paraphrasing: Don't just quote and comment on a point-by-point basis. 4. No anonymous posting, please. Don't say something unless you're ready to stand by it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:35:27 +0100 From: William Wenz Subject: [RQ-RULES] Lowtech If you haven't given it a look yet, I recommend browsing through the new GURPS Low-tech book. I recently got a copy and like it a lot. W. Kurt Wenz *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:40:41 EDT From: MurfNMurf@aol.com Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Callarduran for RQ/Greyhawk - --part1_ee.13873c15.27fdcfd9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/4/01 11:35:54 PM Central Daylight Time, talmeta@cybercomm.net writes about the Spirit Magic or his Miner/Jeweler Cult: > Spirit Magic: Befuddle, Bladesharp, Coordination, Darkwall, Ironhand, > Seems to me if these guys're going to be doing any mining, they'd have Bludgeon too. -Ken- - --part1_ee.13873c15.27fdcfd9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/4/01 11:35:54 PM Central Daylight Time,
talmeta@cybercomm.net writes about the Spirit Magic or his Miner/Jeweler Cult:

Spirit Magic: Befuddle, Bladesharp, Coordination, Darkwall, Ironhand,
Shimmer, Silence, Strength.


  Seems to me if these guys're going to be doing any mining, they'd have
Bludgeon too.
 -Ken- - --part1_ee.13873c15.27fdcfd9_boundary-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:01:20 EDT From: MurfNMurf@aol.com Subject: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaaay back - --part1_8.12a827a3.27fdd4b0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi gang, Well, having received 2 pieces of RQ Rules mail this morning, I guess my wondering as to whether the RQ Rules list is still in operation have been answered. Anyhow, having just recently acquired a file unzipper, I've been reading through the often mind-numbing stuff at the RQ mailing list archives; occasionally uncovering some interesting stuff. One of the things I ran across was a spin on Shamans by one Bryan J. Maloney, where he'd split the basic occupation into several different ones, including Kitchen Witch, an Ecstatic Monk. At the time (waaaaaay back in 94), he'd said he was going to post the rules for them in the next couple of days, but I sure couldn't find them :( Does anyone have these rules, or know Bryan's email address? Thanks. -Ken Murphy- - --part1_8.12a827a3.27fdd4b0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  Hi gang,
  Well, having received 2 pieces of RQ Rules mail this morning, I guess my
wondering as to whether the RQ Rules list is still in operation have been
answered.
  Anyhow, having just recently acquired a file unzipper, I've been reading
through the often mind-numbing stuff at the RQ mailing list archives;
occasionally uncovering some interesting stuff.
  One of the things I ran across was a spin on Shamans by one Bryan J.
Maloney, where he'd split the basic occupation into several different ones,
including Kitchen Witch, an Ecstatic Monk. At the time (waaaaaay back in 94),
he'd said he was going to post the rules for them in the next couple of days,
but I sure couldn't find them :(
  Does anyone have these rules, or know Bryan's email address?
  Thanks.
 -Ken Murphy- - --part1_8.12a827a3.27fdd4b0_boundary-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:04:58 EDT From: MurfNMurf@aol.com Subject: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back - --part1_ab.829fc80.27fdd58a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gang, =A0=A0 Well, having received 2 pieces of RQ Rules mail this morning, I guess= my=20 wondering as to whether the RQ Rules list is still in operation have been=20 answered. =A0=A0 Anyhow, having just recently acquired a file unzipper, I've been read= ing=20 through the often mind-numbing stuff at the RQ mailing list archives;=20 occasionally uncovering some interesting stuff.=20 =A0=A0 One of the things I ran across was a spin on Shamans by one Bryan J.=20 Maloney, where he'd split the basic occupation into several different ones,=20 including Kitchen Witch, an Ecstatic Monk. At the time (waaaaaay back in 94)= ,=20 he'd said he was going to post the rules for them in the next couple of days= ,=20 but I sure couldn't find them :( =A0=A0 Now I know its a longshot, but does anyone have these rules, or know=20 Bryan's email address? =A0=A0 Thanks. =A0 -Ken Murphy- - --part1_ab.829fc80.27fdd58a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gang,
=A0=A0 Well, having received 2 pieces of RQ Rules mail this morning, I g= uess my=20
wondering as to whether the RQ Rules list is still in operation have bee= n=20
answered.
=A0=A0 Anyhow, having just recently acquired a file unzipper, I've been=20= reading=20
through the often mind-numbing stuff at the RQ mailing list archives;=20
occasionally uncovering some interesting stuff.=20
=A0=A0 One of the things I ran across was a spin on Shamans by one Bryan= J.=20
Maloney, where he'd split the basic occupation into several different on= es,=20
including Kitchen Witch, an Ecstatic Monk. At the time (waaaaaay back in= 94),=20
he'd said he was going to post the rules for them in the next couple of=20= days,=20
but I sure couldn't find them :(
=A0=A0 Now I know its a longshot, but does anyone have these rules, or k= now=20
Bryan's email address?
=A0=A0 Thanks.
=A0 -Ken Murphy-
- --part1_ab.829fc80.27fdd58a_boundary-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:24:16 EDT From: MurfNMurf@aol.com Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back - --part1_61.ce55c88.27fdda10_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow, that was weird. Two postings? _Ken- - --part1_61.ce55c88.27fdda10_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  Wow, that was weird. Two postings?
 _Ken- - --part1_61.ce55c88.27fdda10_boundary-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 01:10:55 +1000 From: Bruce Probst Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Lowtech On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:35:27 +0100, William Wenz wrote: >If you haven't given it a look yet, I recommend browsing through the new >GURPS Low-tech book. I recently got a copy and like it a lot. OK, I'll bite. What specifically makes it a good buy for a RQ person? - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce Probst bprobst@netspace.net.au ICQ 6563830 Melbourne, Australia MSTie #72759 "Mike, if I run out of vomit, can I have some of yours?" ASL FAQ http://users.senet.com.au/~mantis/ASLFAQ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:04:18 -0400 From: "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0BDC8.8AD07500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well the list is a bit unused to see any posts :) Ken so Who besides myself prefers the 2 edition rules to third? Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil then you. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: MurfNMurf@aol.com=20 To: runequest-rules@lists.ient.com=20 Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back Wow, that was weird. Two postings?=20 _Ken-=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0BDC8.8AD07500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well the list is a bit unused to see = any posts=20 :)
Ken
 so Who besides myself prefers the = 2 edition=20 rules to third?
 
Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics.
Alas poor Elric I = was a=20 thousand times more evil then you.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 MurfNMurf@aol.com
To: runequest-rules@lists.ient= .com=20
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 = 10:24=20 AM
Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go = waaaay=20 back

 Wow, = that was=20 weird. Two postings?
 _Ken- = - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0BDC8.8AD07500-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 19:54:33 +0100 From: William Wenz Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Lowtech >OK, I'll bite. What specifically makes it a good buy for a RQ person? It is to those who are interested in filling out worlds or world building. It's a nice look at societies and things found with certain technologies. Even is you disagree with how it has divided things ( it covers four GURPS tech levels 0-4, or rather stone age through medieval) it have some good examples of cultures, governments, equipment, etc., found at different tech levels. If nothing else it can get you thinking about aspects of a ancient or medieval culture you might not normally. With magic around it is easy to overlook more mundane aspects of a society. LIke I said it is worth a look, since it is not a RQ specific resource it is not for everyone. It has got me thinking in some different directions concerning treasure and adventure ideas. W. Kurt Wenz *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 18:12:37 -0600 From: "Stephen Posey [TurboPower Software]" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Lowtech William Wenz wrote: > > >OK, I'll bite. What specifically makes it a good buy for a RQ person? > > It is to those who are interested in filling out worlds or world > building. It's a nice look at societies and things found with certain > technologies. Even is you disagree with how it has divided things ( it > covers four GURPS tech levels 0-4, or rather stone age through medieval) > it have some good examples of cultures, governments, equipment, etc., > found at different tech levels. If nothing else it can get you thinking > about aspects of a ancient or medieval culture you might not normally. > With magic around it is easy to overlook more mundane aspects of a > society. > > LIke I said it is worth a look, since it is not a RQ specific resource > it is not for everyone. It has got me thinking in some different > directions concerning treasure and adventure ideas. I've actually been planning to have a look at it myself, thanks for the mini-review. My understanding is that a big chunk of the book was supposed to be low-tech inventions and engineering solutions that modern folks might not be aware of, or wouldn't believe were possible at pre-industrial tech levels. Is that the case? If so, how do you rate that aspect? Any of the entries particularly interesting from your perspective? Stephen Posey slposey@concentric.net *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:03:20 +1000 From: Bruce Probst Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:04:18 -0400, "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks" wrote: > so Who besides myself prefers the 2 edition rules to third? Not me. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce Probst bprobst@netspace.net.au ICQ 6563830 Melbourne, Australia MSTie #72759 "Watch out for snakes!" ASL FAQ http://users.senet.com.au/~mantis/ASLFAQ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:19:26 -0500 From: "J & Ellen" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back The sorcery rules alone are reason enough for me to prefer RQ3, although I'm mighty impressed with RQ4. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Probst" To: Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:04:18 -0400, "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks" wrote: > so Who besides myself prefers the 2 edition rules to third? Not me. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce Probst bprobst@netspace.net.au ICQ 6563830 Melbourne, Australia MSTie #72759 "Watch out for snakes!" ASL FAQ http://users.senet.com.au/~mantis/ASLFAQ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 04:21:05 -0000 From: "Leon Kirshtein" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back I prefer to mix and match RQ3 and RQ4 Leon Kirshtein >On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:04:18 -0400, "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: >Lord of the Seven Darks" wrote: > > > so Who besides myself prefers the 2 edition rules to third? > >Not me. > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Bruce Probst bprobst@netspace.net.au ICQ 6563830 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:30:42 EDT From: MurfNMurf@aol.com Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Lets go waaaay back - --part1_99.13199384.27feae82_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/5/01 8:17:23 PM Central Daylight Time, bprobst@netspace.net.au writes: > On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:04:18 -0400, "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: > Lord of the Seven Darks" wonders: > > > Well, I'm a fan of RQ3, though when I made the switch over, I did so with a pretty good handful of stuff cadged from RQ2... For example, I couldn't believe that RQ3 was printed _without_ the Slash and Crush being included, so I immediately corrected AH's very _obvious_ (to me, at any rate) printing error by penciling them into the margin at the top of the appropriate page. Same goes for the Alchemy/Potions stuff as well. And IIRC, Shamans in RQ3 just didn't have all of the cool abilities that they did in RQ2; me having to scrawl them into yet another margin; the extended margin-filling finally causing the book to wind up looking like The Necronomicon :) I am aware of at least 2 other groups out there still using RQ2, though I haven't interacted with them except for the occasional e-mail. From what they tell me, their RQ2 campaigns are humming along very nicely, thank you :) -Ken- - --part1_99.13199384.27feae82_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/5/01 8:17:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
bprobst@netspace.net.au writes:


On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:04:18 -0400, "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch:
Lord of the Seven Darks" <kruch7@home.com> wonders:

> so Who besides myself prefers the 2 edition rules to third?
  Well, I'm a fan of RQ3, though when I made the switch over, I did so with
a pretty good handful of stuff cadged from RQ2...
  For example, I couldn't believe that RQ3 was printed _without_ the Slash
and Crush being included, so I immediately corrected AH's very _obvious_ (to
me, at any rate) printing error by penciling them into the margin at the top
of the appropriate page. Same goes for the Alchemy/Potions stuff as well. And
IIRC, Shamans in RQ3 just didn't have all of the cool abilities that they did
in RQ2; me having to scrawl them into yet another margin; the extended
margin-filling finally causing the book to wind up looking like The
Necronomicon :)
  I am aware of at least 2 other groups out there still using RQ2, though I
haven't interacted with them except for the occasional e-mail. From what they
tell me, their RQ2 campaigns are humming along very nicely, thank you :)
 -Ken- - --part1_99.13199384.27feae82_boundary-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #15 ************************************ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. RuneQuest is a Trademark of Hasbro/Avalon Hill Games. With the exception of previously copyrighted material, unless specified otherwise all text in this digest is copyright by the author or authors, with rights granted to copy for personal use, to excerpt in reviews and replies, and to archive unchanged for electronic retrieval.