From: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com (RuneQuest Rules Digest) To: runequest-rules-digest@lists.ient.com Subject: RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #30 Reply-To: runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com Sender: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Errors-To: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Precedence: bulk RuneQuest Rules Digest Friday, April 13 2001 Volume 04 : Number 030 RuneQuest is a trademark of Hasbro/Avalon Hill Games. All Rights Reserved. TABLE OF CONTENTS Re: [RQ-RULES] Dodge? Re: [RQ-RULES] Stormbringer synopsys Re: [RQ-RULES] Dodge? Re: [RQ-RULES] Dodge? Re: [RQ-RULES] Sagas (was Dodge?) RE: [RQ-RULES] Dumping Strike Ranks RULES OF THE ROAD 1. Do not include large sections of a message in your reply. Especially not to add "Yeah, I agree" or "No, I disagree." Or be excoriated. If someone writes something good and you want to say "good show" please do. But don't include the whole message you praise. 2. Use an appropriate Subject line. 3. Learn the art of paraphrasing: Don't just quote and comment on a point-by-point basis. 4. No anonymous posting, please. Don't say something unless you're ready to stand by it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:45:19 EDT From: SPerrin@aol.com Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Dodge? - --part1_29.134d1bc7.2807a61f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/12/01 3:04:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, MurfNMurf@aol.com writes: > Hmm, > Skarp-Hedin, huh? Njal's Saga, right? :) > -Ken- > Got it in one. For those who are wondering, all three heroes are from Njal's Saga. I could have also made a reference to The Long Ships (from which the movie was bastardized) but I can't remember the name of the appropriate character in that book. And the specific reference is to Kari's ability to snatch a flung weapon out of the air and send it back to its thrower--usually fatally. I'm assuming S-H and Gunnar could probably have done it, too. Steve Perrin, having a norse flashback... - --part1_29.134d1bc7.2807a61f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/12/01 3:04:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
MurfNMurf@aol.com writes:


Hmm,
 Skarp-Hedin, huh? Njal's Saga, right? :)
-Ken-


Got it in one.

For those who are wondering, all three heroes are from Njal's Saga. I could
have also made a reference to The Long Ships (from which the movie was
bastardized) but I can't remember the name of the appropriate character in
that book.

And the specific reference is to Kari's ability to snatch a flung weapon out
of the air and send it back to its thrower--usually fatally. I'm assuming S-H
and Gunnar could probably have done it, too.

Steve Perrin, having a norse flashback... - --part1_29.134d1bc7.2807a61f_boundary-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:41:53 -0600 From: Stephen Posey Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Stormbringer synopsys Alain RAMEAU wrote: > > Please post, either on the list or directly to me if nobody else is interested > (which would be surprising). > > Alain. > > >In any case, I've created a synopsys of the 1st Edition Demon Summoning > >Rules if anyone's interested. This encompasses just the Summoning rules for Demons: I've omitted Elementals and higher powers (e.g. beast Lords); and haven't transcribed the sections describing the Demon types (yet ;-)) Anyone else familiar with the rules notice if I've overlooked or misinterpreted anything? Stephen Posey slposey@concentric.net - -------------------->8 cut here 8<-------------------- Spot rules for Summoning Demons (a la Stormbringer 1st Ed.) Sorcerous Rank: - --------------- Sorcerous "Rank" is determined by summing INT and POW. INT + POW RANK - ---------------- 32 1 36 2 40 3 44 4 48 5 Starting Abilities: - ------------------- Beginning Sorcerous Rank determines starting abilities. RANK ABILITY - ------------ 1 No Demon Summoning Available 2 90+D8 Ability to summon one type (roll on Demon Type table) 40+D8 Ability to summon a second type 3 90+D8 Ability to summon one type 70+D8 Ability to summon a second type 50+D8 Ability to summon a third type 4 90+D8 Ability to summon two types 70+D8 Ability to summon two other types 50+D8 Ability to summon the remaining two types 5 90+D8 Ability to summon ALL 6 types Demon Type - ---------- 1 Demon of Combat 2 Demon of Protection 3 Demon of Knowledge 4 Demon of Transportation 5 Demon of Desire 6 Demon of Possession Improving Sorcerous Abilities: - ------------------------------ Characters who gain more INT and/or POW, to the extent that they qualify to go up in Rank must still be trained in the higher arts. This also applies to the character who was unable to start as a sorceror, but gains the ability through play. There are three ways for the increase to happen: 1. A book or other source of information: Study of the information for 40-INT game months will allow progression to the next rank. Failing a roll on POW x 3% at the end of the period indicates a misunderstanding of the material, and the character died(!) 2. Training by an NPC sorceror of greater level Study with the NPC for 30-INT game months will allow progression to the next rank. GM's determination regarding the NPC's willingness and availability, and what he/she wants in return. 3. Training by a PC sorceror of greater level Study with the PC for 30-INT game months will allow progression to the next rank. It is up to the PC what they require in return. Such study/training is full-time and the player and any teacher (NPC or PC) are out of action while the training is going on. New Rank Abilities: RANK ABILITY - ------------- 1 No Demon Summoning Available 2 INT x 4% Ability to summon one type (trainer's choice) INT x 3% Ability to summon a second type (") 3 Summon first two demon types at current ability INT x 3% Ability to summon a third type (player's choice) 4 Summon first three demon types at current ability INT x 3% Ability to summon remaining Demon types 5 Summon all demon types at current ability Sorcerors improve their magic skills of summoning the same way they do with other skills. Summoning Lesser Demons: - ------------------------ A sorceror will generally need hours of time and preparation to summon a Demon at full ability. A sorceror may sometimes need to summon a demon in an emergency, AKA "Impromptu Summoning" * All preparatory requirements (e.g. diagrams, materials, sacrifices) still apply * Time required = 2d10 minutes * Chance to succeed = Roll d% on Lesser of (2 x POW) or (1/2 x Sorcerous Ability for summoning that demon type) Demon Design: - ------------- Sorcerors are mystically limited by their own natural attributes as to what demons they can summon: * Roll Demon's POW on 3d8 * Sum Summoner's STR, CON, SIZ, INT, POW, DEX, CHA * Subtract rolled POW * Distribute remaining characteristic points as desired * POW may be increased, but not reduced below rolled amount * Demons (esp. those to be bound into an object) need not have all 7 characteristics greater than 0 * Some Demon abilities require minimum ratings in some characteristics Bargaining with Demons: - ----------------------- Demons of INT <= 5 cannot be bargained with. To Bargain (typically an agreement to return Demon home after a service, and a promise not to harm the sorceror): * GM Roll d% < (CHA x 5) * Success = Demon agrees to the Bargain * Failure = Demon may dissemble then later betray the character, or outright attack upon release. Released or otherwise Encountered Demons may also be bargained with again: * GM select bargainer's INT, POW, or CHA * GM Roll d% < (2 x attribute) * Success = Demon agrees to new bargain * Failure = Demon continues with attack Binding Demons: - --------------- * Binding needs to be into some material object. * POW vs. POW struggle to bind demon Transferring a Binding: A bound demon will serve whoever controls its binding object, subject to: * Control of a binding object may pass to another if the binder wishes it or is dead. * The new master of the binding object must also engage in a POW vs. POW struggle to control the bound demon or it is freed (see below for the behavior of freed demons * Failure to bind will cause any other bound demons to similarly instigate a POW vs. POW struggle * Immediately after all POW vs. POW struggles are over the summoner/binder's POW drops to 1. Such lost POW regenerates at 1 pt. per game hour, but 1 pt. is lost permanently. A Freed demon will respond according to its type: TYPE REACTION - ------------------------- Combat Attack until kill the summoner/binder or until receives a serious wound at which point return to home plane Protection Return to home plane Knowledge ? (suspect return to home plane) Transportation Return to home plane Desire Return to home plane Possession Attack and attempt to possess, if unsuccessful return to home plane Successful Binding: When a sorcerer succeeds at binding a demon of equal or greater POW than the sorcerer's POW, the sorcerer has a chance to gain POW. * POW gain = d4-1 Binding for Others: * A sorcerer may engage in the binding POW vs. POW struggle for another. * Transfering the binding reduces permanent POW by 1. Limits on Binding Demons: * A sorceror may have bound at once a number of demons = 1/2 x CHA * Transferring a Binding (as described above) reduces the count of bound demons allowing binding of a new one.` - -------------------->8 cut here 8<-------------------- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:30:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "T. Kurt Bond" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Dodge? SPerrin@aol.com writes: > For those who are wondering, all three heroes are from Njal's > Saga. I could have also made a reference to The Long Ships (from > which the movie was bastardized) but I can't remember the name of > the appropriate character in that book. Was it Orm, the main character of the book? Can't remember exactly. > And the specific reference is to Kari's ability to snatch a flung > weapon out of the air and send it back to its thrower--usually > fatally. I'm assuming S-H and Gunnar could probably have done it, > too. - -- T. Kurt Bond, tkb@tkb.mpl.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 01:31:07 EDT From: SPerrin@aol.com Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Dodge? - --part1_d5.4ee9dd6.2807e91b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/12/01 7:41:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tkb@tkb.mpl.com writes: > . I could have also made a reference to The Long Ships (from > > which the movie was bastardized) but I can't remember the name of > > the appropriate character in that book. > > Was it Orm, the main character of the book? Can't remember exactly. > > No, it was the character he teamed up with to bring back the Russian gold in the last 3rd of the book. I found it fascinating that the movie took the hero of the book, Orm, and made him the kid brother sidekick, and took his maimed and mute brother, Ari, and made him the hero played by Richard Widmark. And of course there is the famous floating solid gold bell... Steve. who realizes he is off topic, except in the manner of inspiration... - --part1_d5.4ee9dd6.2807e91b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/12/01 7:41:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tkb@tkb.mpl.com
writes:


. I could have also made a reference to The Long Ships (from
> which the movie was bastardized) but I can't remember the name of
> the appropriate character in that book.

Was it Orm, the main character of the book?  Can't remember exactly.



No, it was the character he teamed up with to bring back the Russian gold in
the last 3rd of the book.

I found it fascinating that the movie took the hero of the book, Orm, and
made him the kid brother sidekick, and took his maimed and mute brother, Ari,
and made him the hero played by Richard Widmark.

And of course there is the famous floating solid gold bell...

Steve. who realizes he is off topic, except in the manner of inspiration... - --part1_d5.4ee9dd6.2807e91b_boundary-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:47:25 EDT From: MurfNMurf@aol.com Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Sagas (was Dodge?) - --part1_14.127ecec8.28085d6d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/13/01 12:41:25 AM Central Daylight Time, SPerrin@aol.com writes: > No, it was the character he teamed up with to bring back the Russian gold in > the last 3rd of the book. > > I found it fascinating that the movie took the hero of the book, Orm, and > made him the kid brother sidekick, and took his maimed and mute brother, > Ari, > and made him the hero played by Richard Widmark. > > And of course there is the famous floating solid gold bell... > > Steve. who realizes he is off topic, except in the manner of inspiration... > > > > Well, as long as we're wandering off-topic and talking about the Sagas, I recently acquired "The Sagas of Icelanders" from this paperback book club I'm a member of. This thing is a _huge_ paperback; about 4" thick, and has 18 different Sagas included; though, unfortunately, _not_ Njal's Saga. I haven't actually read through any of this yet, as it just arrived yesterday, and I'm currently reading Dracula and The Vinland Saga (_not_ Dracula & the Vinland Saga. 2 different books, I mean). Should anyone be interested, the ISBN # on the back cover is 0-965-47770-3, and its around 25 dollars US. The publisher, not too surprisingly, is Viking :) -Ken Murphy- - --part1_14.127ecec8.28085d6d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/13/01 12:41:25 AM Central Daylight Time, SPerrin@aol.com
writes:


No, it was the character he teamed up with to bring back the Russian gold in
the last 3rd of the book.

I found it fascinating that the movie took the hero of the book, Orm, and
made him the kid brother sidekick, and took his maimed and mute brother,
Ari,
and made him the hero played by Richard Widmark.

And of course there is the famous floating solid gold bell...

Steve. who realizes he is off topic, except in the manner of inspiration...





  Well, as long as we're wandering off-topic and talking about the Sagas, I
recently acquired "The Sagas of Icelanders" from this paperback book club I'm
a member of. This thing is a _huge_ paperback; about 4" thick, and has 18
different Sagas included; though, unfortunately, _not_ Njal's Saga.
  I haven't actually read through any of this yet, as it just arrived
yesterday, and I'm currently reading Dracula and The Vinland Saga (_not_
Dracula & the Vinland Saga. 2 different books, I mean).
  Should anyone be interested, the ISBN # on the back cover is
0-965-47770-3, and
its around 25 dollars US. The publisher, not too surprisingly, is Viking :)
 -Ken Murphy- - --part1_14.127ecec8.28085d6d_boundary-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:15:45 -0400 From: Robert Stancliff Subject: RE: [RQ-RULES] Dumping Strike Ranks > I do feel that someone suitably fast, WITH Coordination > spells AND a fast weapon probably should attack twice as > often as some small bloke with a shortsword. > Jeremy But why is the long weapon considered 'faster'? It has more mass, is harder to control, and harder to change direction of travel. The smallest, lightest weapon is truly the 'fastest'. The long weapon only has a reach advantage as long as the opponent holds back. If he can get to his weapon's normal reach, there is no advantage to the long weapon. It is better to say that lances and pikes must attack 3 or more meters to get WSR=0. WSR=1 weapons must be able to attack 2 meters, and WSR=2 weapons must attack 1 meter. If an opponent is inside your weapon reach, then the WSR is set to 4. In some cases you could change your fighting style with the weapon such as using your WSR1 long spear as a WSR2 quarterstaff. At close range many one-hand weapons can be used for short clubbing attacks at WSR4. Stancliff *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #30 ************************************ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. RuneQuest is a Trademark of Hasbro/Avalon Hill Games. With the exception of previously copyrighted material, unless specified otherwise all text in this digest is copyright by the author or authors, with rights granted to copy for personal use, to excerpt in reviews and replies, and to archive unchanged for electronic retrieval.