From: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com (RuneQuest Rules Digest) To: runequest-rules-digest@lists.ient.com Subject: RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #127 Reply-To: runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Sender: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Errors-To: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Precedence: bulk RuneQuest Rules Digest Thursday, November 8 2001 Volume 04 : Number 127 RuneQuest is a trademark of Hasbro/Avalon Hill Games. All Rights Reserved. TABLE OF CONTENTS Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction is a good cause Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction is a good cause Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction is a good cause Re: [RQ-RULES] Spirit Combat and Intellect Spirits Re: [RQ-RULES] Spirit Combat and Intellect Spirits Re: [RQ-RULES] Spirit Combat and Intellect Spirits Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction results for Quest Rules RULES OF THE ROAD 1. Do not include large sections of a message in your reply. Especially not to add "Yeah, I agree" or "No, I disagree." Or be excoriated. If someone writes something good and you want to say "good show" please do. But don't include the whole message you praise. 2. Use an appropriate Subject line. 3. Learn the art of paraphrasing: Don't just quote and comment on a point-by-point basis. 4. No anonymous posting, please. Don't say something unless you're ready to stand by it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:43:37 -0800 From: "Steve Perrin" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction is a good cause Oops, not what I had in mind. In theory, the top five bidders would each get a subscription. I'll check with GIDFA. Steve - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Furst" To: Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction is a good cause > Steve, it looks like you have 5 subscriptions available and 2 bids so > far. It also looks like the winning bidder receives all 5 > subscriptions. Is that correct? > > >See http://www.gidfa.org/auction > > > >In short, it's a game industry auction to raise money for those devastated > >by the Sept. 11 attacks. A lot of neat (much of it unique) stuff is > >available for bidding on. > > > >Steve Perrin > >www.perrinworlds.com/SPQR.html > > > > > > > ____ > Brad > > > > > > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:50:19 -0800 From: "Steve Perrin" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction is a good cause Looking at the page, I don't actually see anything to support your contention. I have communicated with the creators of the auction, however, and await their response. Oh, and there are three bids now. If you want to get in on it, you'll have to outbid the top bid, of course. That's up to all of $30.00 now. Steve - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Furst" To: Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction is a good cause > Steve, it looks like you have 5 subscriptions available and 2 bids so > far. It also looks like the winning bidder receives all 5 > subscriptions. Is that correct? > > >See http://www.gidfa.org/auction > > > >In short, it's a game industry auction to raise money for those devastated > >by the Sept. 11 attacks. A lot of neat (much of it unique) stuff is > >available for bidding on. > > > >Steve Perrin > >www.perrinworlds.com/SPQR.html > > > > > > > ____ > Brad > > > > > > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:00:39 -0500 From: "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction is a good cause Well I put a bid in also to show my support Steve. ken Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil then you. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Perrin" To: Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction is a good cause > Looking at the page, I don't actually see anything to support your > contention. I have communicated with the creators of the auction, however, > and await their response. Oh, and there are three bids now. > > If you want to get in on it, you'll have to outbid the top bid, of course. > That's up to all of $30.00 now. > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Furst" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:25 AM > Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction is a good cause > > > > Steve, it looks like you have 5 subscriptions available and 2 bids so > > far. It also looks like the winning bidder receives all 5 > > subscriptions. Is that correct? > > > > >See http://www.gidfa.org/auction > > > > > >In short, it's a game industry auction to raise money for those > devastated > > >by the Sept. 11 attacks. A lot of neat (much of it unique) stuff is > > >available for bidding on. > > > > > >Steve Perrin > > >www.perrinworlds.com/SPQR.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____ > > Brad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *************************************************************************** > > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > > with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. > > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 17:16:17 +0000 From: "Jeremy Martin" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Spirit Combat and Intellect Spirits Can a Divine spell be stored in an intellect spirit? This would negate any need for Issaries' spell trading abilities... Also, do you lose the spell when you transfer it to an intellect spirit? I always assumed no, and that the character would have to spend an hour per point forgetting the spell afterwards. So I would never allow a spirit to 'teach' a spell to a person. Think of the imbalances - every character has access to everybody else's spells. The shaman learns Bladesharp 6 ('cuz HE can), puts it in an intellect spirit and gives it to everyone else (even one character transfers are too much). Wizards with a pet intellect spirit trade spells at will (then relearn from their spellbooks, if forgotten). Besides, how would you learn all the hand-waving we need for a spell? How to use the focus? As GM and game balancer, I would feel it necessary to limit this one... Jeremy >From: Tal Meta >Reply-To: runequest-rules@lists.ient.com >To: runequest-rules@lists.ient.com >Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Spirit Combat and Intellect Spirits >Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:51:55 -0400 > >"N.J. Effingham" wrote: > > > > I think a control spell is too extreme. It'd mean intellect spirits > > would be less than useful unless you had the appropriate control > > spell. I'd say you can, with a rounds full concentration, transfer a > > spell to or from a spirit and yourself BUT there must be space > > (Free INT) for it to go in, so as it takes one hour to forget one point > > of spell the whole process could take quite some time. > >Perhaps, but you're essentially "stealing" a spell from the spirit - >having to use a control spell to convince it to cough it up (rather than >just having it loan you the knowledge of it) sounds fairer to me, >somehow. > >-- >talmeta@optonline.net - Heretic, Dilettante, & God-Machine >AIM - talmeta >ICQ - 12594453 >Homepage - > >If God is dead, who will save the Queen? > >*************************************************************************** >To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com >with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 11:31:43 -0800 From: "Steve Perrin" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Spirit Combat and Intellect Spirits A Divine spell can only be learnt by a true devotee of the particular god. The Issaries (or similar trading god) spell would be an exception. So you would need an intellect spirit dedicated to the particular god before he can "learn" the spell. I would also say that teaching the Divine spell to someone else who can use it is essentially casting the spell. You are passing the capacity to use that facet of the god's power to someone else. Think of Divine magic as a discrete gift. If you give the gift to someone else, you no longer have it until you do whatever you need to do to get another one. By this I don't mean that the giver loses the spell. He's just, for all intents and purposes, cast it. If his normal use of the spell means that he doesn't get it back, then he doesn't. If he can get it back after casting by praying for it, he does. Steve Perrin, who sees he's probably going to have to rewrite the Divine Magic section of Quest Rules, again. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Martin" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Spirit Combat and Intellect Spirits > Can a Divine spell be stored in an intellect spirit? This would negate any > need for Issaries' spell trading abilities... > > Also, do you lose the spell when you transfer it to an intellect spirit? I > always assumed no, and that the character would have to spend an hour per > point forgetting the spell afterwards. > > So I would never allow a spirit to 'teach' a spell to a person. Think of > the imbalances - every character has access to everybody else's spells. The > shaman learns Bladesharp 6 ('cuz HE can), puts it in an intellect spirit and > gives it to everyone else (even one character transfers are too much). > Wizards with a pet intellect spirit trade spells at will (then relearn from > their spellbooks, if forgotten). > > Besides, how would you learn all the hand-waving we need for a spell? How to > use the focus? > > As GM and game balancer, I would feel it necessary to limit this one... > > Jeremy > > > >From: Tal Meta > >Reply-To: runequest-rules@lists.ient.com > >To: runequest-rules@lists.ient.com > >Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Spirit Combat and Intellect Spirits > >Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:51:55 -0400 > > > >"N.J. Effingham" wrote: > > > > > > I think a control spell is too extreme. It'd mean intellect spirits > > > would be less than useful unless you had the appropriate control > > > spell. I'd say you can, with a rounds full concentration, transfer a > > > spell to or from a spirit and yourself BUT there must be space > > > (Free INT) for it to go in, so as it takes one hour to forget one point > > > of spell the whole process could take quite some time. > > > >Perhaps, but you're essentially "stealing" a spell from the spirit - > >having to use a control spell to convince it to cough it up (rather than > >just having it loan you the knowledge of it) sounds fairer to me, > >somehow. > > > >-- > >talmeta@optonline.net - Heretic, Dilettante, & God-Machine > >AIM - talmeta > >ICQ - 12594453 > >Homepage - > > > >If God is dead, who will save the Queen? > > > >*************************************************************************** > >To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > >with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 15:21:01 -0500 From: Tal Meta Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Spirit Combat and Intellect Spirits Jeremy Martin wrote: > > Can a Divine spell be stored in an intellect spirit? This would negate any > need for Issaries' spell trading abilities... Why would you? Divine spells don't take up any INT... > Also, do you lose the spell when you transfer it to an intellect spirit? I > always assumed no, and that the character would have to spend an hour per > point forgetting the spell afterwards. Yes, the spell once transferred, is lost. If a sorcery spell, you do not lose your skill in it, only the 'readiness' to cast it. > Wizards with a pet intellect spirit trade spells at will (then relearn from > their spellbooks, if forgotten). This works, though you only get a starting %age chance with the spell when learned this way. And then only when in contact with the binding object for the spirit. - -- talmeta@optonline.net - Heretic, Dilettante, & God-Machine AIM - talmeta ICQ - 12594453 Homepage - If the English language made any sense, lackadaisical would have something to do with a shortage of flowers. -- Doug Larson [Not to mention, butterfly would be flutterby. Ed.] *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:49:37 -0800 From: "Steve Perrin" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction results for Quest Rules Just looked at the website and I see that a total of five of you made bids, so that's five subscriptions. Thanks to all of you for contributing to the auction. As soon as they send me the email addresses, I'll send you your chapters. You haven't missed much at this point, I'm in the middle of a technical writing project and haven't had any time to add to the rules. More is coming. Steve Perrin - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks" To: Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction is a good cause > Well I put a bid in also to show my support Steve. > ken > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #127 ************************************* *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. RuneQuest is a Trademark of Hasbro/Avalon Hill Games. 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