Re: Jeff's analysis of the Whitewall sources

From: jeffrichard68 <richj_at_...>
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 17:11:10 -0000


> > The latter makes a lot of sense to me and would explain why those
> > tribes end up under radically pro-Lunar regimes.
>
> So basically we are left to make up the non-Lunar tribal leaders
holed up
> in Whitewall? That's a lot of supporting cast...

Around a thousand, based on John's spreadsheet. I'm still not convinced that there are any city uz.
> > Lokomoko is one of my favorite characters in Glorantha, but I
really
> > disagree. Broyan is behaving in a perfectly traditionalist
manner -
> > he truly is the "last Orlanthi king". Which should give him
access
> > to a lot of magical support that the king of the Volsaxi wouldn't
> > normally get.
>
> Ok. Someone had to make this accusation, though. And probably also
some
> faction during the siege.

Oh sure. Accusations of Lokomokism always fly - especially when folk start doing "new" heroquests...

> Apart from the Kitori mishap four years later.

Yep. Part of the reason I don't think the Kitori are involved in this. And that there aren't city uz.

> That indicates some very high level magical research in Whitewall.
So we
> have a secondary scene at Karstanstead with its Derensev Library.
Or,
> given their specialisation for oratory, possibly also oral
tradition, a
> circle of sages in besieged Whitewall.

I really like the idea of a secondary scene at the Derensev Library.

> >> And I can't help viewing this as a magicked-up Broyan dangling
on
> >> Tatius' fishing line having swallowed both bait and hook by
> >> assuming the Vingkot role.
>
> > Or maybe it was the reverse - I think that Broyan knew exactly
what
> > he was doing.
>
> Wouldn't that make him quite un-Orlanthi? I prefer realisation at
some
> turning point, and working his way from there.

I'm with that. Maybe during the Sacred Time of 1620 or even a little later.

> > Yep. There is also the Battle of the Verge - which might well be
> > the direct inspiration for Broyan. I am certain there are
numerous
> > Vingkot myths as well.
>
> So one side project is to develop a Vingkotssaga to be exploited in
> heroquests?

Personally I think that would be a great idea. Flesh out some of these Orlanth subcults - other than Hedkoranth.

> A recurring topic on all of the smaller groups I am involved in.
I'll dig
> up a summary of my Kitori theories from the Wilmskirk and
Pais_Saint
> lists.

Please do!

Jeff

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