Roderick said:
>>The whole reason for this discussion
>>was Phil's contention that the bat
>>couldn't perform the "shake off the
>>pesky interlopers" maneuvers close
>>to the ground.
What? It's not *my* fault! No, the *real* reason for the whole discussion is that, at the start of this thread, you couldn't get your head around the relative proportions of the Bat and the Whitewall environs. I think you have now, but you're just too pigheaded to say, "Hmmm... maybe I got it a little wrong."
>>I say "Sure it can - it's a bat.
Err, yeah, you do, don't you? You also say, "It's a God", "It's magic", "It's Chaos" and "It can disobey the laws of physics" when it damn well suits you. You really really really want to have your cake and eat it, don't you? Let me restate my original difficulty for you, using Bat Bodylengths (BBs). What I contended was -
IF the Bat is 1km long at this time (ie 1BB = 1km) AND IF the Bat is attacked just before it screams THEN IT IS LIKELY THAT the Bat will be approximately 1.5BBs from Whitewall AND IT IS LIKELY THAT the Bat will be flying at an altitude of approximately 0.3BBs.
That's how *I* was imagining it - I didn't say it was Canon. I further contended that IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, FOR ME, aerial acrobatics were a no-no *at this point in time*. YGMV, of course.
You, Roderick, decided to throw a big girlie hissy-fit at the "no aerobatics" part, though goodness knows why. I was trying (and still am) to work the aerobatics into the story in a "believable" way. I have NEVER said the Bat couldn't or shouldn't be fast. I have NEVER said the Bat couldn't or shouldn't be agile. I have NEVER said the Bat couldn't or shouldn't do aerobatics. Come to think of it, I don't think anyone has...
>>And trying to point out that it need
>>not be as close to the ground as he
>>suggested.
There you go again! You're unbelievable. Either you're stupid or you're being deliberately obtuse. I don't think anyone (me included) thinks it's the former, so why *are* you such a grumpy old arse? OK - let's put the Bat at it's maximum height for you. Happy now? It's 1.5BBs, isn't it, taking into account the 1 mile radius of the Scream? Sorry Rod, *still* no aerobatics at this altitude. For easy reference, imagine yourself flying at an altitude of 9 feet (at ANY orientation to the ground you like and at ANY speed you like with ALL the agility and acceleration you like). If you suddenly experience the pain of an attack, you're going to perform one of only two flying tricks. You're going straight up, or straight down. If you go back to my contention of an altitude of around twenty inches, the problem becomes considerably more difficult, and might even rule out "straight up". YGMV, of course.
In (the Orlanthi) all Gloranthas, the Bat will approach (and attack) Whitewall at the speed of a walking horse and at a low altitude. In all Gloranthas it will have its wings fully extended while doing so. All narrators feel all this is more flavoursome than your alternatives and will lead to MGF. Now some of us want the Bat to go wildly out of control after it's attacked so that we can stage the Big Fight on its back with the backdrop of aerial acrobatics. Unfortunately, getting the Bat up to a believable height is causing us some problems. That's what we're trying to discuss. YGMV, of course.
Roderick, if you feel your Glorantha is sorted, that's great - I'm happy for you. But you're not helping the rest of us with your negative, aggressive and inconsistent posts. Please let those of us who can still perceive problems with the set up try to sort it all out. We'd appreciate your help of course, but frankly I personally find your attempts to impose your ideas upon everyone else (as some sort of Canon) rather irritating.
Regards,
Philip Twice-Grumpy
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