Re: Whence Wallenstein?

From: donald_at_...
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:23:04 GMT


In message <260814.16925.qm_at_...> Jane Williams writes:
>
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albrecht_von_Wallenstein
>
>> > I'd never heard of him before, but a quick skim shows definite parallels.
>
>> Oh well, another cultural assumption gone into "never heard of it" land.
>
>Blame the British education system and it's "start at the beginning
>and go on to the end" methods. He's slightly later than the point at
>which I dropped history, and the bits and pieces I've picked up by
>reading at random since didn't mention him. In fact, the entire war
>is news to me (well, beyond the assumption that most of Europe has
>spent most of its history at war, so the chances were that a war was
>occuring between those dates).

Even if you'd carried on with history there wouldn't have been much mention of that war. Something like 'the 30 years war devastated Germany' followed by 'now we're going to spend six months on the English Civil War'.

There's also a silly problem with school history in that after three years at secondary school you switch from covering the subject in date order to studying the exam syllabus. In my case that was two years on European history 1870-1914 so there was a great big gap between about 1700 and 1870.

The last bit before the exam syllabus is probably typical of English history as taught at that time. It was all about the Duke of Marlbrough beating up the French. That he did it in Germany in the War of Spanish Succession managed to escape me at the time.

>Yes, he looks like a good parallel and source of inspiration.
>
>> "Besides it being completely "non-Glorantha-sounding" IMO...."
>Yes, most of Glorantha, at least in this area, doesn't have
>German-derived names. (A shame.) But this is why I tend to look at
>literal meanings, and translate. "Boiling stone". Put that in some
>other language (what language is preferred, for Tarsh? Latin/Greek
>for Lunars?) and you have the reference for those who like it.
>Carregberwi, or something like it, in Welsh/Stormspeech.
>Lapideus ferveo in Latin (I think - my Latin is rusty)
>Neither of which sound too good to me :(

The Welsh looks good to me even if I can't remember how to pronounce it. I think Latin is more Lunar Heartlands than the provinces.

>Ooh, maybe we can use that meaning, as how the business empire got
>started. Ever heard the story about Stone Soup?
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_soup

Well the bit about General Patton could easily fit.

And a League based on making something from nothing could be in the Association.

-- 
Donald Oddy
http://www.grove.demon.co.uk/

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