Re: Is Argrath a theist or an animist?

From: Michael Hitchens <michaelh_at_6iRmQkhIsMfCjknWOy2iq3paYS5AyPhTqzHuE_n-zFsfNu2_j5OqtUXeGHvVPjdveii>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:17:51 +1000 (EST)


On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Chris Lemens wrote:

>
> Michael Hitchens:
>
>> If there's two, then obviously no problem
>> Argrath White Bull - animist
>> Argrath Maniskisson - theist
>
> Humbug. There's only one. Or three.

Humbug yourself. I think there is at least three (Argrath White Bull, Argrath Maniskisson and Argrath of Pavis).

>> Hmm - what about misplaced worhship - the sword brothers, for example are
>> misplaced worship of Humakt?
>
> That's my sneaking suspicion, but there are problems with it. I was hoping
> someone else had a better idea.

Said I didn't like it

>> PS - personally I think Argrath Maniskisson and Argrath White Bull are two
>> separate people
>
> Double humbug. They're the same, but all the others are different.

Oooo - Jane will have you for that one.

> John Hughes:
>
>> For all the joys of delving its mysteries, KOS can never tell us
>> anything definitive about the Argraths. Too many of them are player
>> characters. I strongly suspect it was consciously designed that way. And
>> I hope the forthcoming Argrath Campaign remains true to this basic
>> principle of Gloranthan roleplaying.
>
> Hear, hear!
>
>> The Big A is Nysalor/Gbaji. He can pretend to commune with who he wants,
>> and you'll love him for it.
>
> I don't much like the whole "Argrath's illuminated" or "he's a mystic" idea.
> I don't know why. It just doesn't resonate with me. Frankly, it bores me.

I don't like it either, but if that's the best we can show for Argrath Maniskisson and Argrath white Bull being the same then sort of says they aren't. I don't like it because it makes everything too easy. "Oh he could
do that because he's illuminated". No better than "cause I say so". It's a cop out in the case of Argrath.

> Who thinks Arkat was more than one person (excluding Gbaji)?

Never thought about it but my instant reaction is that I don't like it.

Michael



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