On September 1, 2007 07:49 pm, Greg Stafford wrote:
>
> > The implication that the GL boosted it would be a mark AGAINST it for
> > most places. Thee was widespread reaction to reject anything the GL had
> > promoted.
>
> Yes. But as mentioned, what people decided was really "God Learner"
varied a
> lot.
Also, I am not convinced hat the GL actually spread the LB story far and wide as "their own." They had a monomyth, for certain; but I do not think that the LB was anything more than a part of it.
>I also think that much of the LB story/religion was spread by the First
> Council and the like. It seems a bit more pan-Theleyan than lots of
things.
This is absolutely correct. In the Dawn Age the Theyalans spread it (and
it stuck) through southern Peloria, Maniria and Slontos, most of Ralios,
and south-western Fronela.
> > > I think Erissa replaces Chalana Arroy in some versions. (Adding to the
> > > arguments about whether they are the same entity.)
> >
> > Remember that you can replace the entities in stories, but the myths are
> > not arbitrary.Errisa's identification with Chalana Arroy is strong (I
> > believe them to be nearly if not entirely identical). So that would work
> > in Peloria. But putting in Xentha (for instance) is a bigger reach and
> > just would not work automatically.
>
> *nod* Oh, I agree. It's not an arbitrary replacement.
Certainly not with Chalana Arroy and Errisa, who I think are more likely to be one entity than two.
>I don't think that
> works. But there are some vague bits even in what we already know of
the LBQ.
> Ginna Jar, for instance. Flesh Man seems to be somewhat variable I would
> think.
Ginna Jar is, of course, the wyter of the group. Flesh Man is not
precisely a cipher to be filled in as desired, but a mortal being, whose
spot can be filled by just about any mortal being.
> > > I think Lhankor Mhy is viewed as part of the Storm Tribe by
alliance in
> > > Heortling myth, but is not necessarily viewed that way elsewhere. Much
> > > the same for Issaries.
They are both members of the Storm Tribe. But as you seem to be implying, they can also be worshipped separately. And they are.
> > Myself, I do not know of other pantheons where they are as firmly
> > embedded, although I would be glad to see discussion of such and I might
> > be illuminated on that. But they could be worshiped as "foreign gods" in
> > many places, just for their darned usefulness.
>
> Exactly. I think they are probably more firmly embedded in the Storm
Tribe
> areas compared to anyone else, but do show up in lots of places. This
despite
> the GL pushing them (especially LM). Lokarnos really doesn't seem to
fulfill
> many of Issaries' functions. Same with Buserian and LM. They are
around, if
> less prominent, in my eyes.
And the GL just never got that close to the Pelorians to get a handle on them.
--Greg
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