> --- In WorldofGlorantha_at_yahoogroups.com, Greg Stafford
> been discussing Zorak Zoran and his possible connection to other Gods
>
> >
> >>He shares magical powers with Storm Bull (berzerk),
> >
> > Strictly speaking, SB shares them with the originator of the power.
> >
>
> Are you suggesting ZZ is the "originator" of Beserking, or that Urox
> and ZZ both obtained this power from a common source (along with any
> other beserking gods)
It is more likely that it originates with the oldest deity. However, it could just be that both have amazingly similar powers of going bonkers kill-crazy nutso gainst any and all (friends and foes alike), but that it is a different core power.
>> and Fire Gods (salamanders).
> >
> > Which we know he stole from a conquered god.
>
> A number of people have suggested that maybe ZZ had these powers (or
> some of them) before the Hill Of Gold. So maybe we don't "Know" it
> for sure...
Maybe you don't, but I do.
Mind you, I might be convinced otherwise, but I'd have to see something to
counteract my 30 years of experience.
>> The third strange thing, one that I could never figure out the
> >> reason for until now, was the Arkat thing.
>
> Certainly any "secret history" of Zorak Zoran will have to take Arkat
> into account. But it may just be that Arkat decided ZZ was the
> premier Anti-Chaos God - especially since the Uz had a personal score
> to settle with Gbaji.
Yes. My position exactly.
> (Also every time Arkat changed he could be
> seen as betraying his former allies. After defeating Gbaji as a
> Zorak Zorani, he went on to rule Arkat's dark empire in a very un-ZZ
> like manner...)
Everyone except the beings he ruled in his post-war empire view Arkat at the Betrayer. Very few beings modernly admire him for his deeds.
But I think that Zorak Zoran is also illuminated? Does he not have a
> mystics "Third Eye"?
Gods are not illuminated. Many of them have contact with the Infinite, but that i a part of their essential being, not due to having been Illuminated.
>> What do you think?
> >
>
> A great piece of God-learning!
oooh, nicely said!!
> > And this is the kind of thing that there may well be a Gloranthan
> > cult or phiosophy which beleives this.
> > But NIMG.
> >
>
> Hmm - Yelmic Trolls, or ZZ worshipping Dara Happans - could be fun...
>
MGF forever. :-)
--
Greg Stafford
Game Designer
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