Well i re-read this article that I really love for describing so well the complexity, originality and deepness of gloranthan myths, but still I don't see your point.
Let's be clear, my proposal is just an hypothesis and I will not fight for it if a better one appears, anyway...
- Hunshen are already included in orlanthi myths, for example when Sofal the Mother turtle lets Orlanth cross the western ocean on her back during the lightbringers' quest.
- Broos are everywhere and if we leave the orlantho-centric explanation, I will be curious for foreign variations. An hunshen one could then be: an hunshen goat-maiden was rapped by invading crazy stormy invaders and she and her sons turned evil after that...
To me the most questionable point is:
Where come the goat-like traits?
- From Ragnalar the goatkin/broo father? a storm goat god as we have his brother Urox, a storm bull god. Some texts seems to indicate that. Then broos are originated from Umath mating with some animal source.
- From Thed the goatkin/broo mother? Some texts indicate that too, then is the primal goatkin an full original race by itself or a mix of man and beast runes (like hunshen usually are)?
- Both? like two interpenetrating mythological universes, animist and theistic, something that didn't fit well together (who said one 'raped' the other?), something that happened everyday during the godwar?
Well I don't have firm answers, just questions.
What we have is only orlanthi sources, naturally orientated.
;-)
Loran
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> Check out that daedalusa article, it's got details of published origins for Thed.
> YGMV but not hsunchen in published material, IIRC.
> A goat hsunchen, as an animistic culture, might be too primitive for the Orlanthi myths, as they are.
> M
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> My personal feeling was that Thed could have been the hunshen spirit for the men/goats before meeting Orlanth's brother... possible?
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> Loran
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> --- In WorldofGlorantha_at_yahoogroups.com, Alison Place <alison_place@> wrote:
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> > Our assumption was that the original, non-chaotic broo race were truly goatkin. Therefore, it's a case of reverting to type.
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> > We even had a scenario in which remnants of this race that did not choose to follow the Unholy Trio featured.
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> > Alison
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