Re: Gloranthan/Genertelan Dress

From: Steven Leary <sdleary_at_B_aGAatynM6w2fE9S-cquR9bpquIQuhtyPnJrv4E2U-jSFSYo_EUyTs9q-OwY8kdmCP9>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:06:11 -0700

The problem is that so far we have nothing to prove that it will be better, just different based upon brief descriptions. Until product is in hand that refutes all product before it, "better" cannot be proven. Second, you are dealing with something that is analogous to being archaeological in nature. You have multiple generations of a game going back thirty plus years that depict the cultures of a fantasy world one way. While not in print, these products are readily available for those that do a brief search.

In order to overcome these thirty years, Moon Design is going to have to be very prolific with its publishing. And those products are going to have to have ample visual evidence that contradicts what came before it; pictures of people in the described cultures which are clearly not Earth analogous. And those products will have to be available in numbers that put enough product out there to be seen.

Remember that "A picture is worth a thousand words". And its the pictures from those previous supplements more than the text that is going to make this transition a potentially difficult one.

SDLeary

On Oct 10, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Prince B wrote:

> So what! We are all working toward something better than this. What
> you describe were just stages along the way not archeological
> evidence providing dome sort of proof.
>
> wrote:
> >
> > Time to delurk...
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Despite your assertion that Genertelan dress is not analogous to
> > comparable earthly cultures, you have a hell of a lot to do to
> > disprove this. I refer you to RQ supplement box 8, Glorantha:
> GCotHW,
> > booklet 2, Genertela Book. Greg and Sandy are listed as authors, and
> > because its Glorantha, I have to assume that Greg had oversight on
> > approving the art work.
> >
> > p.11 Fronela -- This is clearly a Western European knight from the
> > High Medieval/Early Renaissance period.
> >
> > pp.22 & 23 Kralorela -- The two Martial Artist shown are clearly
> East
> > Asian in appearance and dress. In fact the gis look very Japanese or
> > Korean.
> >
> > p.29 Lunar Empire -- A hellenistic member of a Phalanx.
> >
> > ... and we have a Germanic/Nordic warrior from Maniria, a Hunnic or
> > Mongol warrior (you could argue a Scyth) from Pent, an Italian City
> > State warrior/soldier from Ralios, a Byzantine Imperial Cataphractos
> > from Seshnela and a Anatolian Turk from Teshnos. The only ones that
> > don't look like they are earthly analogs are the Zebra rider and the
> > Dragonewt. Thumbing through Pavis, Big Rubble, and Borderlands gives
> > the same impressions.
> >
> > Now I know that this may have not been Greg's intention, it has
> > certainly tuned into the result.
> >
> > SDLeary
> >
> > All of this gives the impression that not only the dress, but the
> > Cultures are similar to those depicted.
> > On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:10 PM, markmohrfield wrote:
> >
> > > Perhaps so, but why the sudden emphasis on the bronze age
> > > specifically?
> > >
> > > Mark Mohrfield
> > >
> > > --- In WorldofGlorantha_at_yahoogroups.com, "jeffrichard68"
> > > <richaje_at_> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The gloranthan West is NOT the medieval West of Europe and their
> > > costumes should not be based on that. I agree fully with ian's
> points.
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > >
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