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On Nov 14, 2009, at 9:08 AM, Greg Stafford <glorantha1_at_BJxRXKdQ51C-HQ422zI8XuF7d0uq4yXaNjmnUSpDBPltNfip4wgmLB8NINZGO2xgiVC2fNsiTEGmcaPg81Up.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> YGWV
>
> Peter's answer is excellent.
> Furthermore, I will supply a few of the things that I know.
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 7:52 PM, arun <keithnellist_at_r7LEnmqraYVQ2grKvHxnDtlGd7sN60y5C1jnerFXkwgRkrQo96B1DqWG7Z5XCqHC7moHOZFl1RbYk0e8lNDDYZ8.yahoo.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to understand what motivated the Waertagi to move
> humans around
> > the lozenge and plant them in other parts of Glorantha - the
> Slontans and
> > Seshnegi moved to Jrustela, the Brithini exiles to Fronela and
> Seshnela.
> >
>
> The traditions of Brithini exile is old.
>
> Pre- or early-Ice Age migrations from Brithos across the Neleom
> occurred
> several times,perhaps even frequently.
> See http://www.glorantha.com/new/mythmapwestern3.html and
> http://www.glorantha.com/new/images/D4L_V2.JPG to get an idea of the
> world
> then. Colonies--"exiles" is a better word sometimes--went in all
> directions,
> including many that are known only by their name in some old
> manuscripts;
> some that are known to be destroyed; and some whose fates are simply
> unknown, though presumed destroyed.
>
> The reason for the exile of these early groups is always because
> they did
> not conform to one or another of the Brithini standards, and were a
> danger
> to polluting the entire community. They always left voluntarily. The
> precise
> reasons for their exile are not always known, and do not always make
> sense
> when they do. (What are we to make of "Senarumasvalktor took away his
> community so they could pick up certain sea shells with their left
> hands."
> ?)
>
> The Waetagi were among the Brithini in those days, descended from
> Waertag
> who is a son of Malkion. They cooperated in every way with the
> Brithini, and
> were integrated into their ways. The Brithini never went to sea--the
> Talars
> who did were sealed into immense crated rooms, "a piece of home,"
> that were
> transported intact to foreign lands. They never came out while the
> room was
> not on land.
>
> When the Brithini ended the Ice Age, that was the situation.
>
> Were they doing it for payment
>
> Yes, but not in the usiness sense. They were part of a network, a
> system of
> Brithini ways that crossed the worlds. The Waertagi were the
> seagoing part.
>
> or because the had obligations to the Brithini,
>
> Yes, but less "obligations" than simply "the way it is."
>
> or because they wanted/needed land based allies to supply them with
> things
> > from the land that the sea couldn't supply?
> >
>
> True Waertagi live 100% from the sea. Like all water-borne things,
> they view
> the Dry only as a place from which food comes. Not necessary food,
> exotic
> food. A prevalent stream of Waertagi thought is that if they go onto
> land
> (or go onto land "too much") then they will become an exotic--
> therefore
> desirable--food for the Deep. So the "traditonals" stay at sea.
>
> In the early Dawn Age the Waertagi, as part of the Brithini network,
> transferred a large population of Brithini out of the homeland and to
> foreign lands. Again, for threatening the larger community's
> stability.
>
> One migration, during the Gbaji wars, were officially exiled "for
> indulging
> in the pagan habit of smoking." This included a fair number of the
> newest
> generation, just bred, and our good friend Arkat, who is really the
> cause,
> no matter how much "fumigatory indulgences" had spread among the
> newbies.
>
> So they did it because they were Waertagi, it is what Malkion said
> to do,
> before he'd corrupted himself with whatever cause changed him.
>
> This continued until the Waertagi were abruptly destroyed at the
> Battle of
> Burning Sea, or Tanian's Victory.
>
> --
> Greg Stafford
> Game Designer
>
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