> Not really. Sarenesh instituted an Order of Illumination composed of
> Eight Schools (not illumination but Nysalorean Cults, IMO).
I haven't read TFS, so my dope may possibly not be the straightest, but nothing I've seen quoted from it counters my view that in the 2nd Age, there's fewer people seeking Illumination, fewer people spreading it, and more people attempting to suppress it, than in the other-mentioned periods. Other explanatory devices thereby redundant.
And if Peter's parenthical O is correct, this contradicts the premise of his Attempted Greg, methinks.
> These were
> allegedly responsible for the three generations of peace but were ultimately
> blamed for causing the collaspe of Dara Happa to carmania through internal
> corruption.
If this charge is correct, then Illumination must have been fairly readily achievable during said three generations, no? No Illumination, no resultant social problem.
> The change in the ease of achieving Illumination was due to the
> Red Goddess bringing speaking to Nysalor, IMO.
I don't think this is the case, since one does reach reach Illumination via the Red Goddess's cult, or, apparently, any other specifically Lunar cult. And nor should one have to; why should an internal revelation from personal practical experience about the external universe be dependant on a theistic cult's twiddlings with the God Plane?
Evidently Illumination determines the present form of the Red Goddess's cult, but I don't think the converse is true.
> >The question "Who is the Aldryami sun god?" has not, for me, been
> >satisfactorily answered
> Antirius! Well, that's the God Learner opinion anyway...
God Learners wouldn't bother to ask the question. "Seen one sun god, seen 'em all."
One possibility I'm toying with is that from an original brown elven POV, Vronkal was the sun god archetype. The roles and myths of Vronkal and Yelmalio seem to overlap a fair bit, especially given Sandy's assertion that all Mreli rely on green High King Elf dudes to defend their forests during the winter. It could be that only contact with humans has muddied the waters by introducing a distinction between worshippers of a specialised, more war-like sun cult (Elmal, Yelmalio, and Antirius all fitting this bill in different areas), and mainstream HKE worthies.
Embyli and "pure" Vronkai seem less troublesome, and may just worship something more like a Yelm cult (or a cult of Vronkal with more Yelmic overtones), at least within the limits of God Learner experimental accuracy.
Alex.
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