some stuff

From: Peter Metcalfe <P.Metcalfe_at_student.canterbury.ac.nz>
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 10:33:06 +1300


John Leske:

>Perhaps I should start-up more duels in my glorantha over pronunciation
>of God's names ("You calling my God a Parvess?" (refuse bucket)
>"Yes, I said you God is Pavis" <thump>) and do silly jokes about
>trade-talk accents ("Goodness Gosh Me, so many customers visit my humble
>shop do, and all jolly good happy time having, but nothing from me
>ever buy!")

An interesting anecdote I read a couple of weeks back was about this. It was from originally by William Caxton and the book cited it as an example of diversity in the english language before printing standardized it.

A merchant from London is travelling to Holland for some trading mission by boat. Because the ship is awaiting a favourable wind to take them across the chanel, it had sailed northwards to Kent and stop there for the night.

The merchant disembarks and goes into a shop for some supplies. He first buys some meat which the lady hands over and then asks for some eggs.

The shopkeeper's reply was something along the lines of:

'Sorry. Don't Speak French. 'Naff off.'

This made the merchant very angry for _he_ did not speak french also. It turns out the Kentish word (another merchant in the shop sorted out the confusion) for eggs was 'eyren'.

Two points: To be accused of being french or even speaking french is a rather nasty thing to say in those days. France was the Enemy and remained so for a long time.

Kent is one of the Home Counties. It lies just north along the coast from London on the map. If a dialect could cause problems in Kent to a City Merchant, imagine what it must be for a City Merchant in Birmingham, Yorkshire or Glasglow (places noto^H^H^H^H famous for their accents nowadays) at that time.

Because of this, I think that Languages that lies within the same family, frex Sartarite and Esrolian are actually the same language murdered by its Sartarites/Esrolians according to the Esrolian/Sartarites and would be viewed as such. Tarshite would be viewed as a different language (ie the way we view spanish and french) but a Sarterite Lhankor Mhy Sage would call the Brolians Tarshite Speakers.

Nils Weinander:


Me>>BLUE: Telask's Color. He represents Sea. ...

Me>>Telask we felt is not a color god.  He is however the son of Shukan and
Me>>from what I have heard, he also appears to be worshipped by some East
Me>>Isle dudes.

>I suppose you mean Tsankth in the second case, for he is worshipped
>by Islander pirates, while Telask isn't.

D'oh. Must commit Seppukku after posting this retraction of my unpardonable error. Nils is right.

>I'm a bit surprised by the
>attribution of Sea to Telask. I though he was a war god rather, while
>Tsankth took care of the watery stuff.

The colour fits. The Way I and presumably the Vorumaini see Telask is that normally the Sea is calm. Then suddenly it can change without warning and become a destructive force. That is the essense (and original conception) of Telask. He has over the passing years been recast into the ideal of the warrior: normally steely calm and then wildly destructive depending on the circumstances. Some elements of his history as a Sea God still remain in some cultic rituals, IMO.

Tsankth on the other hand is too crude and graceless to be accepted within Elegant Vorumai Social Circles. He is a God of _Pirates_.

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