timely musings

From: Peter Metcalfe <P.Metcalfe_at_student.canterbury.ac.nz>
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 20:35:05 +1200


Nick Effingham:

> Before I carry on, I'm going to start by saying that I'm not really sure
>whether Time did or did not exist before the COmpromise but I'm going to put
>my lot with the Orlanthi, because there's just too many damned Dara Happans
>around nowadays :)

Well I hate to break it to you but even the Orlanthi believe in the concept of linear time before the Dawn.

Consider the following quotes (all from KoS) of godtime events.

p57 The First Ring 'One day some of them were talking about how none of them had ever eaten any Imperial Gazallet...'

p60 The First Harp 'But one time when Night stood guard, the Predark warriors crept in and stole the gods' herd of shell horses'

p64 The Initiation of Orlanth 'Sometimes, in those days, even the mountains moved...'

p66 The New Music 'But one day Orlanth went to the Emperor's Palace for music.'

p67 The Sword Story 'In the old days there was no death or violence'.

p68 The Court of Silence 'For seven days, the soul lingers near the body...'

p71 The Healing of Mastakos 'A mortal man would need ten days to climb down from Kerofin, and five days to cross Doziriland by foot, and another seven to climb to the top, but by following precisely in Mastakos' steps Orlanth needed only two steps.'

p73 How Peace Was Made. The chequered battle is presented as occuring over several days. Orlanth does not finish it because he does not turn up for the battle one day.

p74 Orlanth the Justice Bringer 'Orlanth spent the night in the sky, and plummeted to the earth again at dawn.'

And that should be enough methinks. People may wonder what exactly caused Night and Day in the Old Days as Yelm did not set. IMO the Sun regularly travelled in the heavens between two points and then completed the circuit on the other side of the heavens. The night was not dark as it is now but more like a twilight.

>This is a failing point. Considering that time did not exist in
>pre-Compromise Glorantha then the amount of turnings of the glass don't
>matter. If you had two hourglasses on opposite sides of Glorantha, they
>might measure different periods when they were brought back together.

But what if we choose as a reference macroscopic pheomena that is visible of both sides of glorantha? Like for example the periods of the planets? If culture A determines that Planet X had a period of y days, then what would culture B determine the period to be? Given that these planetray cycles continue to the Dawn and beyond, do these periods change at the Dawn?

> What also seems quite odd to me is the exact amount of years that passed in
>pre-Compromise Glorantha according to GRoY. Why is it always in orders of
>10,000 years etc...?

Because Plentonius loved the number 10. He dedicates his calender to it. Have a look at some of the Indian chronologies and compare them to the history of the world. Pretty numbers and not much else. Also note that Plentonius's calender falls down because it does not predict the Sunstop.

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