Q+A: Are the gods real/were they created?

From: Henk.Langeveld_at_Holland.Sun.COM
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:57:45 +0100 (MET)

Stephen Lucek on "MONOMYTH vs SUBJECTIVE MYTH ":
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> Gosh this talk about the monomyth has been going on a long time. I have been
> too busy to add my little bit, but for what its worth, here it is, very quickly.
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> Martin Laurie states the two positions very clearly:
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> i) GODS ARE REAL and ii) GODS ARE CREATED (BUT REAL).

and continues to describe how the differences are sometimes hard to discern between the positions.

Here's a bit about the language involved: The problem is with the verb 'to be', which is a temporal verb.

Any statement about the existence of the gods has to take into account the relation between godtime and sequential time.

Q: How are godtime and sequential time related? A: They are independent, but interaction is possible.

Q: How can godtime and sequential time interact? A: through people.

Q: Do the gods exist?
A: They do in godtime.

Q: How is godtime measured?
A: Not.

Q: Are the gods created?
A: Sequential time: Before there were people, no-one cared.
A: Godtime: check out your creation myths... who came first?

Q: What is an atheist?
A: A person with no perception of the godtime.

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• -- Henk Langeveld a reductionist's view on metaphysics.

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