The mysterious Mr. Trotsky (hey - aren't you supposed to be dead in Mexico City? Hmm. . . .) wrote:
>A few Digests back, VS Greene raised the question of the possibility
of a
>cult of Orlanth Bridegroom being created by the Lunars and their
>sympathisers. A number of people replied, but I was alone in saying
that I
>didn't think it was very likely. My reasoning was that AFAIK, the Red
Goddess
>had to pledge to destroy Orlanth as part of the conditions of
attaining
>godhood at Castle Blue. Fair enough, so I was evidently wrong. But I
notice
>that nobody replied to my objections to the idea.
Since my suspicions about the relationship between Hwarin Dalthippa and the Syllilan "Orlanth" cult are similar to the Orlanth Bridegroom issue (although I don't think that the Lunars have any heroquesters capable of softening the attitudes of the Sartarite-Hendriki "Orlanth" cult towards the Red Goddess), I'll throw out a response.
Mainly, the Red Goddess never pledged to destroy the Heortling god Orlanth. Period. The ire of the Red Goddess and her followers were not directed to the kingdoms of southern Peloria (rampant Orlanth worshippers), but against Carmania. Even though Greg is still working on the legendary "Lunar Book", the Fortunate Succession (still available through Wizard's Attic as far as I know) gives more material on the Red Goddess and the Red Emperor (albeit from a Dara Happan POV) than any of the old published material.
The ire of the Orlanth cults against the Red Goddess is based on three things: 1) her followers are willing to use "Chaos" against her foes; 2) her client kings trample on the traditional rights of the local chiefs and priests; and 3) most Heortlings really hate paying tribute to anyone. Making matters worse is the cultural confusion between the largely Dara Happan-Carmanian Lunar Heartlands and the clan and tribal structure of the Heortling Orlanthi.
>2) What would a cult of Orlanth Bridegroom be able to acheive that
the
>already existent Cult of the Seven Mothers cannot?
The cooperation and support of the rural clans, which make up the vast majority of the population. The Seven Mothers may be popular in Furthest and in the trade towns, but most of the population of the Provinces (Aggar, Holay, Tarsh) are still worshipping Orlanth and Ernalda. The Empire may have suppressed the Warrior and Lightbringer cults, but they are not too difficult to resurrect. If Hwarin Dalthippa married the Red Goddess to the local Orlanth cult in Syllila, it would help explain the stead-fast loyalty of the Syllilans to the Red Goddess. Indeed, during Sheng's occupation, Syllila was one of the few lands that continued to worship the Goddess instead of his Nomad Nastiness.
On Cultivated Land in Sartar:
David Dunham wrote:
>A hide (an old Anglo-Saxon term) is about 120 acres, enough land to
support
>a family. Your definition of family may vary; I'm currently assuming
it's
>about 8 (father, mother, 2 elders, 1 unmarried adult sibling, 3
kids).
I hate to be picky but an Anglo-Saxon hide ranged from 40-120 acres. Furthermore, an Anglo-Saxon acre was not a fixed land area but represented the amount of land a team could plough in one day.
I think David's web-page (a true work of Mastery!) still has my entry called "Heorl's Questions" that deal with some of these issues.
Jeff
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