I agree with Carl!

From: Joseph Troxell <jmt107_at_psu.edu>
Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 19:53:55 -0400


I'm trailing Digests by a few days, and just wanted to add two more cents to the ongoing debate about subjective/objective myth. I have to agree with Carl Fink on these issues.

I think that myths from differing POVs are, and should, differ and perhaps even conflict. Orlanth slew Yelm with Death. Now, if you're an Orlanthi, Orlanth did a great thing and freed the world from a despot. If you're a Solar, Orlanth was an upstart rebel who didn't know his head from a hole in the ground, and screwed up the whole world because he couldn't accept that Yelm was better than he. If you're an Orlanthi, Orlanth reconized his mistake and undertook the LBQ to free Yelm and restore the Sun to the world. If you're a Solar, Yelm freed himself and drew Orlanth to Hell to repent for his crimes. Different stories, but same main points: 1) Orlanth killed Yelm, and 2) Yelm escaped Hell and Orlanth was around when it happened.

Someone brought up the idea that five witnesses to an auto accident will relate five different stories. This is true. The details will differ. They should all at least agree that an accident happened though!

What I don't like is stuff like, "Are Elmal and Yelmalio the same diety?" Either they are, or they're not. I don't care if the Orlanthi call Yelmalio "Bob". It's either the same diety, or it's not. A rose is a rose, so to speak. Invariably, the campaigns I've been involved with solve this issue by throwing Elmal out the door.

Now, I know I said, "just look at it as heroquesting." And, you can certainly do that. I'm just saying that I don't like widely contradictory information. I don't care about the details, I'd like the major points to be concrete.


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