Arkat and other things

From: Peter Metcalfe <phm30_at_student.canterbury.ac.nz>
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 16:11:20 +1200


Alex Ferguson:

AJ>> BTW, in all this, "how does a guy like the Pharaoh keep from
>> floating off to the Hero-Plane" hoopla, doesn't anyone wonder about the
>> Only Old One?

>Easy one; the OOO is actually an Office, not a single person, if I
>recall correctly.

Denied according to the writers of the Broken Council freefrom. Since his material body was destroyed, I think that the OOO (if he returns) would adopt a policy similar to the pharaoh.

>(I don't
>think Lord General of Death is _really_ a permanent position, living in
>an underground Lead Pentagon of Blood in between manifestations, though
>I'm always open to wacky elaborations of this or other theories.)

Given the association of Arkat with Zorak Zoran (which is not infuriatingly not described in either of the official cult writeups), I'm assuming that the Lord General of Death is an Arkati who knows a spell that allows him to moblize the Legions of Death (much like Arkat did with the Ebon Net of All Hooks). Or perhaps the LGoD is trying to recover this spell which was lost in the Great Fire of Clarity. Or even he is busy casting it at the moment...

>> Upon reflection, I think that the Uz Arkati of Ralios use human
>> style sorcerer whereas the Uz Arkati of elsewhere (save for the
>> Mistress Race) use the divinized sorcery.

>This may well be true, though in Ralios there's less need for Arkat
>as a "focus" of a sorcery cult at all, so (human-style) Uz sorcerers
>in Ralios may pay lip-service to Arkat, or in some cases not even that.

I think that human-style sorcery is normally impossible for the Uz to learn (something of the like is implied in the Birth of Arkat Kingtroll) and that it requires some special initiation to use. Perhaps they tear the initiate to pieces and install some human organs in him? Given the secret society overtones, this would be a variation of the intiation by terror.

Stephen Martin:


>As far as I gather from GRoY and talks with Greg, the Sun alwasy rises
>due east and sets due west. And, since Glorantha is a lozenge, not a
>globe, day and night lengths should not vary at all in different places
>in Glorantha.

This IMO is the wrong way to go about decisions about what Glorantha is like. Having easily obtainable facts which can solidly prove that Glorantha is either a lozenge or a globe or that crystal spheres exist is wrongheaded IMO. The multiple crystal spheres (which BTW was a shortlived idea of Johannes Kepler and not a classical one) would only be known by the Lunars. Other cultures would believe that Glorantha itself moves (and perhaps attribute it to the seasonal motion of Sramak's river or some other force). There shouldn't be an easy answer to shut the likes of Columbus Mercator up and even the best proofs should still leave some room for doubt.

FWIW I believe that the Outer Atomic Explorers thought the world was a globe and it was the scriptural literalists among the God Learners who returned the West to orthodoxy with the lozenge.

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