> Sergio Mascarenhas was chatting about Ducks and Taking Them Seriously.
> The spirit of which I agree with.
What I will be writing to the GD is my point of view about ducks. It is not
supposed to replace yours ore any body elses point of view. The important
fact here is that we both agree on, as you say, the spirit of it. Thats
fine for me.
>but I think that you have to account
> for the existence of the Keets in the East Isles when you write a Mythic
> History of the Ducks.
Sorry Michael, I don't need to account for the existance of Keets. Think of
it this way: do amerindians, which whent from Asia to America, retain any
references to their distant relatives in Asia in their myths? Did the
peoples that live in the african island of Madagascar and are of polynesian
origin retain any references related to Polynesia? No. When they migrated
they developed completely new sets of myths and beliefs with no relation to
their ancient past.
I think of ducks and keets as two separated people of the same species
without cultural ties.
> In My Glorantha, the Durulz are embittered by the fact that they don't
> know why they lost their flight and their primary god.
First, In BL ad RoC that primary god is Yelm.
Second, I think that this is somewhat inconsistent if you take it as common
to all Durulz: Durulz are described as being Orlanthi. That means that
their culture, beliefs and religious practices are connected to storm and
storm gods. In Orlanthi culture flight is connected with Yelm and the sky.
The consequence of your proposal is that Durulz are Orlanthi that really
want to be Yelmalian. It doesn't make sense to me. Are they masochist,
worshiping some gods and really wanting to worship some other different
gods? If that would happen, storm gods wouldn't accept their cult.
Third, this can be a very interesting plot if you take it, not as a major
feature of Durulz, but as the position of some obscure and small Durulz
sect. In fact I incorporated your idea into my Duck Mini Pack just that
way. I will post it to GD some day in the near future.
> and the Keets do.
> (or at least have a reassuring set of myths) and so are far more serene
> than those poor stranded exiles in the middle of the continent.
I don't like the idea of Keets as the positive conterpart of the negative
Durulz and I don't see Durulz as 'poor', 'stranded' or 'exiled'.
In fact, I am not very attracted to Keets. I see them as an asty solution to fill a gap in the description of Glorantha. Something like "We need to populate those east isles. What can we do about it? Hey, look at ducks. Lets just put there ducks, but with the opposite social characteristics of the DP ones and with another name. Great!" I don't know if it was like that, but from the point of view of an outsider, that's how it looks like.
Now about Simmon Phipp comments:
> Do you know about Duck Pond and Duck Tower - serious treatment of Ducks -
> also on of the RQ Adventures had a series of Duck scenarios and there is
> mega scenario on the Web, somewhere.
I also know Duck Tower. I will keep trying to find the rest.
> Have you heard about GanderLand the mythical homeland of Ducks during the
> Golden Age? (...) Perhaps someone can tell us more.
If someone can tell us more, PLEASE DO.
> I beg to differ that Humakt, being neutral, didn't fight.
I was only saying that he didn't fight in the war between Orlanth and Yelm.
It doesn't imply that he became 'Humakt the Pacifist'. The catch here is
the 'fist'. Humakt doesn't go along with blunt weapons.
Sergio Mascarenhas
End of The Glorantha Digest V5 #81
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