RE: unending Ducks

From: Sandy Petersen <SPetersen_at_ensemble-studios.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:11:13 -0500

	Gary Switzer
	Living in an area which is both marginal (in the traditional
Orlanthi sense) and biodiverse I doubt that the Ducks (particularly those living deep within the marsh as opposed to refugees from Duckpoint) would be restricted to being hunters _or_ fishers.

                I agree, except that I do not think that many ducks live deep within the Marsh, owing to Delecti's unrelenting presence. They certainly forage through the outer areas.

	RW Pigmies do a pretty good job of hunting big game.
		It's not solely their small size that prevents ducks
from being good hunters. Human pygmies are faster and stronger than ducks, and I believe that duck society is less cooperative than human.

        I don't see why Ducks wouldn't bag the occasional marsh deer or wild pig when

	there are hungry Ducklings to feed at home.  
		On occasion, perhaps, but in general it is far easier to
net a mess of minnows or tadpoles, or scoop up some pondweed than to hunt down a fast well-armed mammal that is bigger than you are. Ducks _are_ primarily vegetarian, after all.
	Simon Gray
	Are the Council of Gods/Circle of Light worshipped directly? 
		I believe that they are worshiped both individually and
as a pantheon, much like the Theyalan Lightbringers.

        If the group are associated with the constellation of Orlanth's Ring

                This is not certain.          

	I personally beleive that Fonrit has about 4913 gods, 
		You've convinced me. 4913 it is. 
	 

Me: The Umathelan Lightbringers are clearly descended from the Second Age Theyalan colonist beliefs. The Fonritian Circle of Light is a parallel belief.          

Simon: Yeah, I can understand this, but I can't believe that with all Fonrit's invasions of Vralos and Umathela that the religions haven't blended at the edges.

        Fonrit hasn't penetrated the western part of Umathela at all, and most of their conquests have been of the Umathelan Malkioni, not the forest people. But of course there have been "recognitions" of cosmic parallels & unity.

Are some of the Umathelan tribes matrilineal in nature, inspired by the goddesses of their pantheon? I would think so, especially those that follow Thyla and live amongst the Aldryami, who can be perceived as having a matrilineal structure.

        Umathela is a big place, but the forest barbarian tribes have a higher percentage of matriarchal societies than do the Theyalans of Genertela. Since most of them are heavily influenced by their perceptions of elvish culture, and they're stuck in Pamaltela, a continent that has generally retained a heavier matriarchal influence than Genertela. It's only natural.

What are the Earth comparissons for your Umathelans? The names, especially the male ones have a definate Meso-american feel.

        The names aren't meso-american in origin, but if they "feel" that way, go with the flow. Unfortunately, the Umathelan barbarians are forest-dwellers, which makes them not too much like the heavily urbanized Meso-americans of 1400-1600

Andrew Joelson
Anybody out there know of non-Light types that get birds as allies?

        Tricksters & crows or jays. Hunters & falcons. Pirates & parrots. Sailor cults & seabirds. Voria & bluebirds. Earth cultists & roosters. Ducks & ducks. Gagarth & vultures (vultures seem like such a natural ally for these guys). Fishermen and snakebirds.


End of The Glorantha Digest V5 #129


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