Stephen Martin:
Me>>The 'rational reason' that
>>appears to have escaped your omniscience is that in the
>>previous year, the Inhuman King managed to remove the knowlege
>>of speaking Auld Wyrmish everywhere.
>This is, of course, if you accept the rather unlikely (IMO) proposition
>that the name of the Second Age Yelmalio was in Auld Wyrmish. At the risk
>of offending you Peter, I find this to be a fairly ridiculous notion.
>Nowhere is it implied, in any writing, that Yelmalio has any draconic
>connection.
Oh for crying out loud. Just because you can't find any
implications does not there are no implications whatsoever.
Remember the impossibility of the Ralian Sun Dome Temple?
Evidence for the Draconic Connection of the Sun Dome Temple.
- Cults of Prax: Yelmalio 'Lay membership is open to humans,
elves, beast people, dragonewts, or griffins. Trolls and
dwarves, [...] may not join.' The inclusion of beast people
(Remakerela), dragonewts and griffins (Estangang Griffin-rider)
speaks of a linkage to the Sun Dragon Cult. The criteria is
not present in Sun County because IMO Solanthos has 'purified'
the religion.
- Runequest 3 Book V: '...the Empire of the Wyrm's Friends,
which used forbidden dragon magic and was partially derived
from the Solar Imperial Theocracy.' I've already pointed
out to Jeff recently that this meant that the rulers who were
converted by Vistikos Left-Eye would have been Sun Domers.
- An analogous example of an EWFied cult is the cult of
Orlanth Dragonfriend. Nowadays there is no hint of Orlanth
having a draconic connection in the current cult but that
does not mean it never was.
- Do you think that the EWF would seriously counternance
a disciplined military force within its own borders (that
is where the Templars came from) without some sort of
draconization to ensure loyalty? We have no evidence of
any other sort of non-draconized cult among humans within
the EWF. The cult of Yelm for instance was suppressed in
favour of the Dragon Sun.
- The surviving remants of the EWF life that we indicates
that their magic had a strong emphasis of speaking draconic.
The empire itself was destroyed when the Inhuman King caused
Auld Wyrmish to be forgot for auld lang syne. Therefore it
seems to me that the act of speaking Auld Wyrmish was an
_integral_ part of the EWF religion.
All this makes it highly probable that the Sun Dome Templars
who went into Sun County were heavily draconized by the
lore of the EWF and said (or hissed) their rituals in Auld
Wyrmish.
>Why then would any part of his name, or cult litany, be in
>Auld Wyrmish? The EWF connection alone is not enough.
The EWF connection alone is enough IMHO.
Lastly, as a meta-issue, could you stop resorting to holy
pronouncements on whether something is in the Canonical
Corpus of Greg's Writings to shoot down any idea that you
don't like? It gets a bit tiresome considering that on the
other hand, you dismiss the same writings if it contains
something that you don't like by alleging it belongs to the
Monomythic Period of Greg so it can't possibly be true.