More Pavis conspiracies

From: Maria or Michael <michael.raaterova.7033_at_student.uu.se>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:49:28 +0100


ARF asked
>In
>the sources I have researched so far, there is no reference to the
elves
>aiding or coming to pavis anywhere, yet we have the Garden in the
>Rubble.
>
>So why are they there?

Perhaps Pavis wanted to create a complete universe of his own within the

walls. Or maybe he wanted to recreate a small portion of Genert's paradise.

Maybe he was just a power gamer (in a non-RPG sense).

Remember, the cult of Pavis is the only cult that has access to all five

elementals, AFAIK. Also, he already had makers. He had allied the nomads.
He had wyrmfriends. He had the river. Why wouldn't he want growers as well?

Why would he want all this? Well, rumour has it that Pavis wants to resurrect or become Genert or at least the Lord of the Land aspect.

Michael Raaterova

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Thanks for pointing out the Rubble passage, but this still doesn't say *why* the Aldryami moved to Pavis. I am considering the possibility that they moved there for a very specific reason. Maybe the original intention was to produce extra-fertile seed plants that would repopulate the once great forest of Prax, or maybe they were setting up a trade centre for specialised exotic plants that can only be grown in Prax' environment, OR perhaps they had moved there for a political reason to do with Pavis himself (this is probably the one I'll use)

>The only known source on Adari is ToTRM#3 which has an article by
>O.T.P.K Dickison. The description is incongrous with Pavis's stated
>origins such as if his mother was a dryad than why was he living in
>a troll town? Hence I think Adari was grander in the old days before
>Waha sacked it.

I personally don't believe in the Dryad theory. After all, sons of Dryads (from humans) are Satyrs IIRC. Like I said, most races *IMG* cannot interbreed (Those that can are magical). The belief that Pavis was a half-elf is based on the fact *IMG* that he is the only human in local recorded/known history that was so close to the Aldryami that he was almost regarded as one of their own, and so was nicknamed by his peers at the time. This was then either misunderstood or deliberately blurred by succesive generations of Pavis priests. The myth that I am working on will be the "true" version of the story.

BTW, thanks for the other ref's too.

Michael Raaterova:

>Remember, the cult of Pavis is the only cult that has access to all
five
>elementals, AFAIK. Also, he already had makers. He had allied the
nomads.
>He had wyrmfriends. He had the river. Why wouldn't he want growers as
well?

Well, he only really allied with the Pure Horse People (as far as I'm concerned) so that he could beat the beast riders. He then settled an uneasy pact in return for healing their god, but it didn't really last so it's not like he eradicated all potential threats, though he did make a good attempt.

>Why would he want all this? Well, rumour has it that Pavis wants to
>resurrect or become Genert or at least the Lord of the Land aspect.

I don't think power was a factor in his plans. He gained the elemental sin various border pacts to do with the boundaries of his city (Orlanth defines the air boundary , Mostal the earth, Zola Fel the water, etc). I believe his major ideal was to create a place of peace. Why he chose Prax, I don't know.

Stephen Martin:

>Be careful -- it is not that Pavis _visited_ Adari -- he was born
there!
>As for elf links, since Pavis raided through Shadows Dance for a time,

Oops! Actually, after sending the post I did realise that I meant Shadows Dance, not Adari, that he'd visited.

> I seem to recall some sort of link between the Pavis elves and the
Redwood

Is this not where they originated? I believe that there was some sort of link with elves before he awakened the statue. There is Pavis' healer aspect (ie his journey to heal waha and thus create a sort of peace with the nomads), which somehow I've associated with Arroin. I don't think it's suggested in an official source, but I could be wrong.

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