>I wonder if perhaps fragmemnts of the Red Moon would fall to earth
>providing the continuance of minor spirit & hero cults and perhaps even
>deities like Etyries and the Seven Mothers to continue, looking for a
>new pantheon.
Explicitly referred to in the Zin Letters:
'Speculations: What happened to the Moon?
[...]
>After all, the history in White Bear, Red Moon/Dragon Pass
>claims that Argath failed to unite Dragon Pass and ultimately failed
>when he turned on his allies, and the Empire retook Boldhome, so who
>knows what really happened?
I think you are misreading what happens. A scenario 'Counterstroke' says that the historical result was that the Empire retook Boldhome. However the preamble of the next scenario 'Hearts and Minds' reads:
'Argrath's initial victories gave hope that Lunar domination
soon would end, but this hope was tempered when the Lunars
again sacked Boldhome. Argrath saw that in order to hold the
independents, the Sartar forces would have to win a major
confrontation with the Empire. Sezing on a slight by the
Red Emperor as a pretest, Argrath launched a raid in force
against the Empire.'
Dragon pass rulebook p27.
This was successful as Argrath seizes Bagnot and the Empire according to the next scenario is 'Dousing the flames' of the independents.
David Dunham:
>It seems
>likely the Empire was taken over a couple times: "At this time the Lunar
>Empire changed its name. It was called the Good Empire." and later "With
>new leaders it got new powers...called itself the New Moon Empire." The
>first might simply be a new Red Emperor, the second seems more suspicious.
>But I think the end result is as in Argrath's Saga: "The mighty empire
>broke up as its powerful leaders vied for control of its wealth and power."
I think the Good Empire is what the King of Tarsh eventually ended renaming his kingdom as the doublethink concept of an Empire being Good would have its greatest impact on the Orlanthi whereas Evolution has weeded out those Pelorians who think that Empires are capable of being Bad. As support, I point out the Good Emperor is said to be Phargentes, son of Moraides. IMO the Lunar Empire still existed at the time to the north but the relations between it and the Good Empire are unknown.
OTOH the New Moon Empire is stated to have been controlled by Sheng Seleris and after he gets dragged back to the Pits of Perdition, we enter an extremely murky period in which the empire eventually falls apart.
Tim Ellis:
>4) Are we sure that the Telmori that fought against Argrath were
>actually Sartarite Telmori, and not another tribe/pack, already converts
>to the Lunar Way?
The nearest Telmori were the Sylilan Telmori. They are now extinct after HonEel freed them from their curse - she turned them into full-time wolves and now everybody's happy.
The Nagtangli Telmori are hostile to civilized humans and are known to have aided Razalkark in the various chaos invasions according to Dorastor.
The Ralian Telmori are not affliated with Lunars and the Fronelan Telmori are too far away.
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